Re: [linux-audio-dev] midi events in jack callback (was: Reborn)

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Subject: Re: [linux-audio-dev] midi events in jack callback (was: Reborn)
From: Tim Goetze (tim_AT_quitte.de)
Date: Fri Aug 16 2002 - 23:14:39 EEST


Paul Davis wrote:

>>Paul Davis wrote:
>>
>>>>I find that for sending MIDI to an external device, "resolution = RTC
>>>>Hz" works very well. It is a problem that a realtime audio thread
>>>>'suffocates' a RTC thread if low-latency is required, and only one
>>>>processor available. It's very hard to find a clean solution in this
>>>
>>>why not just run the RTC thread at a higher priority? or does that
>>>cause other problems?
>>
>>The problem is I write(2) MIDI from within the RTC thread; with the
>>drivers/hardware we have I see no other way to ensure the bandwidth
>>is used optimally and that MIDI clock is precise. (Sidenote:) That's
>>also why I think firm timers don't help much; CC/pitch bursts must be
>>fed to the interface that way, not to think of sysex.
>>
>>When writing to MIDI ports, some (especially the cheap) interfaces
>>will block in kernel for generous amounts of time. Poll(2)ing for
>>a write possible condition is not an option, on the AWE for example
>>this can give up to 30% constant load in kernel. Ouch.
>
>please learn what i consider to be an invaluable lesson: software that
>uses cheap stuff to do cool things is great. software that tries to
>cover up the flaws in cheap stuff is a waste of time. the creative
>MIDI hardware is just so bad, its really pointless trying to make it
>work like this. just use a card with a decent size FIFO, and then you
>will find that write(2) will never block unless you are generating
>more data than was received by the port.

:)

That's a great argument to throw at somebody who cannot afford better
hardware, don't you think?

Not that I would not like to see firm timers in Linux though.

tim


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