Subject: Re: [linux-audio-dev] [OT] marketing hype [was: Is ladspa actually la-dsp-a? Is JACK the ultimate solution?}
From: Dave Griffiths (dave_AT_pawfal.org)
Date: Thu Jun 10 2004 - 17:29:50 EEST
On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 09:39:42 -0400, Dave Robillard wrote
> On Thu, 2004-06-10 at 00:10, Michael Ost wrote:
> >
> > Should I drop off the list? I ain't the same 'we' you are, I guess.
> >
> > While it's true that the proprietary world has made lots of bad s/w, we
> > in the biz have also made lots of great stuff.
>
> Hence why I specifically said we can take positive things from the
> proprietary software world too. You really just want to precisely
> duplicate all popular proprietary software, just because? I guess we
> aren't the same "we".
>
> > If y'all care (and I think you should) the best way to encourage the
> > proprietary folks to adopt and put energy into open source efforts is to
> > focus on libraries and not apps.
I think that for some of us who are not interested in the possible commercial
possibilities of linux audio apps - this the stuff is what we do when we are
not working. We do it to escape commercial constraints. We deal with that
stuff all day, and get paid for it - so linux is where we go to make something
we can truly own, rather than writing software for anyone else. Where we are
the user *and* programmer, its really quite liberating.
So when people tell us that we have to care about our market share, whether we
are "enterprise ready" and all that - we tend to have quite strong opinions. :)
> If you want a system with a bunch of proprietary audio software, why
> the *#$#@ would you be running linux??
>
> That nice you think I should want proprietary software to get developed
> for linux. Well, I don't.
I don't think it matters - I think if people want to make money, then all the
luck to them (in all honesty). It can only be good for us.
I'm currently running linux (at work) with a very closed source proprietary
and expensive maya running in another window - pixar's very expensive prman
running in the background, these guys are here already (ok - for graphics at
least) - it doesn't change a thing, still running gimp for textures, sylpheed
for email, firefox for web, xmms for oggs etc...
If cubase/reason/reaktor/logic all appeared on linux tomorrow - would LAD
disappear because everything *just worked* and we wouldn't want to develop
anything anymore? - not a chance. I prefer the way we work here, little apps
connected together via jack, silly little commandline tools, lots of crazy
scripting languages - I'm here by choice, not for political zeal.
> Go develop proprietary software on OSX or something.
On a slightly different tack, if I were interested in making money from linux
apps - I would take a serious look at OSX. It's soooo easy to cross develop
for with linux, and there are a lot of people with money there....
cheers,
dave
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