Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: [announce] [patch] Voluntary Kernel Preemption Patch

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Subject: Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: [announce] [patch] Voluntary Kernel Preemption Patch
From: Lee Revell (rlrevell_AT_joe-job.com)
Date: Tue Jul 13 2004 - 22:45:18 EEST

On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 09:26, Benno Senoner wrote:
> Lee Revell wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 19:31, Andrew Morton wrote:
> >
> >
> >>
> >>OK, thanks. The problem areas there are the timer-based route cache
> >>flushing and reiserfs.
> >>
> >>We can probably fix the route caceh thing by rescheduling the timer after
> >>having handled 1000 routes or whatever, although I do wonder if this is a
> >>thing we really need to bother about - what else was that machine up to?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Gnutella client. Forgot about that. I agree, it is not reasonable to
> >expect low latency with this kind of network traffic happening. I am
> >impressed it worked as well as it did.
> >
> >
>
> Why not reasonable ? It is very important that networking and HD I/O
> both don't interfere with low latency audio.
> Think about large audio setups where you use PC hardware to act as
> dedicated samplers, software synthesizers etc.

Right, I did not think of these. I just meant that you would not
typically run Gnutella on a DAW. This should never interfere with audio
latency, as Gnutella is running at normal priority and JACK is running
SCHED_FIFO.

Besides, it looks like there is a real problem with the route cache
flushing. I ran the same test with no significant network traffic and I
am still seeing spikes in latency. There are all of 5 entries in the
route cache.

Kernel IP routing cache
Source Destination Gateway Flags Metric Ref Use Iface
vmail-mx.dca.ne 192.168.2.102 192.168.2.102 l 0 1 838 lo
192.168.2.102 vmail-mx.dca.ne . 0 0 4 eth0
vmail-mx.dca.ne 192.168.2.102 192.168.2.102 l 0 1 838 lo
192.168.2.102 . . 0 0 2 eth0
192.168.2.102 vmail-mx.dca.ne . 0 0 4 eth0

Jul 13 15:15:49 mindpipe kernel: ALSA /usr/src/alsa-cvs-1.0.5/alsa-driver/alsa-kernel/core/pcm_lib.c:169: XRUN: pcmC0D0p
Jul 13 15:15:49 mindpipe kernel: [__crc_totalram_pages+1387264/5353478] snd_pcm_period_elapsed+0x2ca/0x410 [snd_pcm]
Jul 13 15:15:49 mindpipe kernel: [__crc_totalram_pages+1455070/5353478] snd_emu10k1_interrupt+0x3c8/0x480 [snd_emu10k1]
Jul 13 15:15:49 mindpipe kernel: [handle_IRQ_event+49/96] handle_IRQ_event+0x31/0x60
Jul 13 15:15:49 mindpipe kernel: [do_IRQ+155/352] do_IRQ+0x9b/0x160
Jul 13 15:15:49 mindpipe kernel: [common_interrupt+24/32] common_interrupt+0x18/0x20
Jul 13 15:15:49 mindpipe kernel: [rt_run_flush+77/144] rt_run_flush+0x4d/0x90
Jul 13 15:15:49 mindpipe kernel: [rt_secret_rebuild+0/48] rt_secret_rebuild+0x0/0x30
Jul 13 15:15:49 mindpipe kernel: [rt_secret_rebuild+14/48] rt_secret_rebuild+0xe/0x30
Jul 13 15:15:49 mindpipe kernel: [run_timer_softirq+201/416] run_timer_softirq+0xc9/0x1a0
Jul 13 15:15:49 mindpipe kernel: [__do_softirq+131/144] __do_softirq+0x83/0x90
Jul 13 15:15:49 mindpipe kernel: [do_softirq+53/64] do_softirq+0x35/0x40
Jul 13 15:15:49 mindpipe kernel: [do_IRQ+261/352] do_IRQ+0x105/0x160
Jul 13 15:15:49 mindpipe kernel: [common_interrupt+24/32] common_interrupt+0x18/0x20
Jul 13 15:15:49 mindpipe kernel: [default_idle+35/64] default_idle+0x23/0x40
Jul 13 15:15:49 mindpipe kernel: [apm_cpu_idle+165/384] apm_cpu_idle+0xa5/0x180
Jul 13 15:15:49 mindpipe kernel: [cpu_idle+45/64] cpu_idle+0x2d/0x40
Jul 13 15:15:49 mindpipe kernel: [start_kernel+392/464] start_kernel+0x188/0x1d0
Jul 13 15:15:49 mindpipe kernel:
Jul 13 15:25:49 mindpipe kernel: ALSA /usr/src/alsa-cvs-1.0.5/alsa-driver/alsa-kernel/core/pcm_lib.c:169: XRUN: pcmC0D0p
Jul 13 15:25:49 mindpipe kernel: [__crc_totalram_pages+1387264/5353478] snd_pcm_period_elapsed+0x2ca/0x410 [snd_pcm]
Jul 13 15:25:49 mindpipe kernel: [__crc_totalram_pages+1455070/5353478] snd_emu10k1_interrupt+0x3c8/0x480 [snd_emu10k1]
Jul 13 15:25:49 mindpipe kernel: [handle_IRQ_event+49/96] handle_IRQ_event+0x31/0x60
Jul 13 15:25:49 mindpipe kernel: [do_IRQ+155/352] do_IRQ+0x9b/0x160
Jul 13 15:25:49 mindpipe kernel: [common_interrupt+24/32] common_interrupt+0x18/0x20
Jul 13 15:25:49 mindpipe kernel: [local_bh_enable+17/112] local_bh_enable+0x11/0x70
Jul 13 15:25:49 mindpipe kernel: [rt_run_flush+92/144] rt_run_flush+0x5c/0x90
Jul 13 15:25:49 mindpipe kernel: [rt_secret_rebuild+0/48] rt_secret_rebuild+0x0/0x30
Jul 13 15:25:49 mindpipe kernel: [rt_secret_rebuild+14/48] rt_secret_rebuild+0xe/0x30
Jul 13 15:25:49 mindpipe kernel: [run_timer_softirq+201/416] run_timer_softirq+0xc9/0x1a0
Jul 13 15:25:49 mindpipe kernel: [__do_softirq+131/144] __do_softirq+0x83/0x90
Jul 13 15:25:49 mindpipe kernel: [do_softirq+53/64] do_softirq+0x35/0x40
Jul 13 15:25:49 mindpipe kernel: [do_IRQ+261/352] do_IRQ+0x105/0x160
Jul 13 15:25:49 mindpipe kernel: [common_interrupt+24/32] common_interrupt+0x18/0x20
Jul 13 15:25:49 mindpipe kernel: [default_idle+35/64] default_idle+0x23/0x40
Jul 13 15:25:49 mindpipe kernel: [apm_cpu_idle+165/384] apm_cpu_idle+0xa5/0x180
Jul 13 15:25:49 mindpipe kernel: [cpu_idle+45/64] cpu_idle+0x2d/0x40
Jul 13 15:25:49 mindpipe kernel: [start_kernel+392/464] start_kernel+0x188/0x1d0
Jul 13 15:25:49 mindpipe kernel:

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