Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: linux-audio-dev Digest, Vol 19, Issue 33

Hi Ian,
Interesting facts. Here in Bogotá, Colombia, there is a different phone
charge for a minute on internet than a voice minute (much, much lower),
so modems are still widely used.
I agree that another limitation for wider linux adoption is lack of
knowledge, coupled with lazyness to learn a different system.

Cheers,
Andres

On Mon, 2005-04-18 at 12:45, Ian Howard wrote:
> Andres, and all,
>
> A very interesting idea, though here in West Africa, the main limitation
> in Linux adoption is not a lack of modem support, it is more to do with
> a lack of knowledge about Linux and open source, and too many aid and
> commercial organizations only touting or buying proprietary product.
> Here there are very few computers at home and even fewer people who can
> afford the incredibly expensive phone costs, that is the main reason
> that few modems are used here. Those who can, can afford hardware modems
> that supports Linux, as the monthly phone bill will well exceed. I was
> at an internet cafe recently, who had to shut-down because in one month
> their phone bill was over $350, twice their revenue. So, I think that
> though this is a solid idea, and that it might have application in some
> developing countries, here in West Africa modems and phone lines are the
> last choice due to their expense.
>
> Ian
>
>
>
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> > 1. Re: crazy idea... (Andres Cabrera)
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> > Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:14:30 -0500
> > From: Andres Cabrera <andres@email-addr-hidden>
> > Subject: Re: [linux-audio-dev] crazy idea...
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> > Hi,
> >
> > It would be fantastic if that crazy idea could be done! In my opinion a
> > big limitation for greater adoption of linux on third world countries
> > like Colombia where a broadband connection is still a luxury, is the
> > limited modem support.
> > I recently tried to find linux compatible modems and it was impossible
> > (or too expensive -around US$50) in the local market, so I had to ask my
> > brother (who lives in the US) to get me one from ebay which can cost
> > around US$15 incl. shipping.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Andrs
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 2005-04-16 at 02:04, Peter Zubaj wrote:
> > > slmodem is for SmartLink modems (it has this in licence) and it contans
> > > binary part - it can not run on PPC or other processors.
> > > I've seen somewhere project to write software modem, but it was not
> > > finished and abandoned.
> > >
> > > Peter Zubaj
> > >
> > > torbenh@email-addr-hidden wrote:
> > >
> > > >On Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 03:27:02PM -0700, Stephen Hassard wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>Hey Lee,
> > > >>
> > > >>I was thinking about this a little bit and it's probably easier than it
> > > >>sounds.
> > > >>
> > > >>I thought that Alsa already supported MC97 based AMR modems? It looks
> > > >>like it does with the SND_INTEL8X0M module ..
> > > >>
> > > >>Also, you wouldn't have to worry about injecting stuff into the
> > > >>networking layer since modems are just character devices in linux.
> > > >>
> > > >>The only real part would be the DSP stuff. Their might be some other
> > > >>projects to do this kind of stuff already ..
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >the slmodemd is already a user space app.
> > > >and it has an alsa mode already. though it did not work when i tested
> > > >it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>later,
> > > >>Steve
> > > >>
> > > >>Lee Revell wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>I had the idea the other day that you could theoretically implement a
> > > >>>Winmodem driver as a JACK client. All you would need is an ALSA driver
> > > >>>that exposes the hardware part of the modem as a sound card, a mechanism
> > > >>>to inject the resulting bits back into the kernel networking layer, and
> > > >>>the DSP knowledge to implement a software modem...
> > > >>>
> > > >>>This is almost completely pointless, but might be an interesting CS
> > > >>>project.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Lee
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
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