Re: [linux-audio-dev] processing plugin standard wrapper

2007/2/16, Loki Davison <loki.davison@email-addr-hidden>:
> On 2/15/07, Stefano D'Angelo <zanga.mail@email-addr-hidden> wrote:
> > 2007/2/14, Xavier Amatriain <xavier@email-addr-hidden>:
> > > Hard to jump in the thread at this point, but let me try...
> > >
> > > I agree that the plugin approach is severely flawed in many senses
> > > (including the false sense of "freedom" that gives to developers that
> > > are then caught in proprietary specifications). Having a better open
> > > standard like LV2 is a good thing but I see Stefano's point because this
> > > is not going to help promote interoperability, is it?
> >
> > Right.
> >
> > > My humble opinion is that the solution is already sketched out by
> > > existing tools. Imagine an open standard that combines audio streaming
> > > connection a la Jack with control interchange a la OSC. Make it 100%
> > > cross-platform, add a little of Dataflow theory into it to guarantee
> > > proper scheduling and avoiding deadlocks and... voila!
> >
> > ... just a dream? :-)
> >
> > > Curiously enough this has a lot to do with another email sent by another
> > > CLAM developer (Pau) to the list ("Data-flow systems integration").
> > >
> > > I think an effort in integrating data + control inter-application
> > > communication would be much more worthwhile than following the plugin
> > > route.
> > >
> > > Stefano, have you though what your wrapper will suffer when let's say
> > > VST 3.0 is published and you have to rewrite all your stuff simply
> > > because Steinberg has decided to rename a few functions or change the
> > > behavior of many others. Are you going to support a subset of the
> > > specification (like most hosts do)? a subset of all of them? a superset?
> >
> > I mean a superset and I know that's a tremendous amount of work, I do
> > hope that someone will join in.
> >
> > > Also your talk on LTI makes me think that you are not familiar with
> > > models of computation (e.g. Dataflow Networks). Contact me off-list if
> > > you need good pointers).
> >
> > I'm going to do it right now. I'm just a beginner in DSP-related stuff
> > (I have my first DSP exam the day after tomorrow), but it interests me
> > a lot.
> > I have some texts on the topic, but knowledge is always welcome :-)
> >
> > Stefano
> >
>
> As a beginner maybe it is a much more solid option to work on writing
> some simple lv2 plugins instead of a new plugin wrapper/standard. Some
> new plugins would probably benifit everyone much more than even more
> hot air. Helping out with the lv2 zyn efforts would be pretty awesome
> and I'm sure working on an existing project is great for having some
> direction and assistance at getting better.

I know you're right, but it is not something I need. And when I don't
need a thing, I just get bored :-)

Stefano
Received on Fri Feb 16 12:15:02 2007