Re: [LAD] IM like GUI for netjack

On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 10:45:49PM -0500, nescivi wrote:
> Hiho,
>
> On Sunday 30 November 2008 22:32:10 torbenh@email-addr-hidden wrote:
> > On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 12:27:41PM -0500, nescivi wrote:
> > > On Saturday 29 November 2008 23:50:32 torbenh@email-addr-hidden wrote:
> > > > hi...
> > > >
> > > > now that the backend is mostly done, i am thinking about
> > > > a GUI for netjack.
> > > >
> > > > i already found gtknetsource.py on my HD, i started mucking
> > > > with that some months ago.
> > > > i plan to extend that thingy now.
> > > >
> > > > but setting up the connection, and getting IP addresses
> > > > of users is still a PITA.
> > > > i am thinking along the lines of an IM like thing,
> > > > based on jabber.
> > > >
> > > > i am not seeing good options to making this available
> > > > in the various IM clients.
> > > > thats why i would rather like to have modified jabberd running
> > > > on jackaudio.org or at the consortium servers.
> > > >
> > > > it would not support chatting or stuff.
> > > > only show who is online. and if a session is running.
> > > > it would only make the IP of a user available when he agrees,
> > > > to open session... blabla... security.
> > > >
> > > > so basically you click on your buddy, to open a session.
> > > > buddy agrees.
> > > > IP of buddy is transmitted. tool measures connection.
> > > > provides you with some options.
> > > > ie compression ratio, number of channels, latency, who is master ?
> > > >
> > > > and starts the netjack session.
> > > >
> > > > thoughts ?
> > >
> > > Does irclib for python help?
> > > Creates a python irc client, which you can then have only the options you
> > > propose.
> > > Not jabber based though.
> >
> > this might be a very good alternative.
> > one would need to register a second nick on freenode for this i guess.
> >
> > it would still not be easy to detect the IP of a peer, if he was using a
> > cloak. i basically want to expose IP only if user agrees.
> > and detecting IP from inside NAT is not trivial.
> > not sure how i should tacke this. i there some service out there,
> > which can tell me my IP if i open a TCP connection to it ?
> >
> > if you have a solution for this, irc would become my choice i guess ;D
>
> Hmm... not really.
> Although.. sk wrote a http-tunnel for a project of ours once in ruby, to
> tunnel osc messages to the outside world, so I could control a remote
> scsynth, regardless of firewalls, that may be in between.
> But it required a server running a host script, which connected the tunnels.

TCP is nono.
netjack handles packet loss now. you dont even hear it with celt.

we should start talking about a wireless netjack soundcard.
i bet you have some use for that ;)
celt is ported to ARM.
and even support non-fpu.

> It's a bit convoluted, and may send audio streams around with some detour,
> depending where the server is, and where the participants are.
> But I'm sure linuxaudio.org would be eager to give some bandwidth ;)

no detours also. they add unnecesary latency and jitter.
we have the possibility for 10ms latency netjack on dfn.
why sacrifice with a tour through the states ? :)

>
> Maybe our LAC streamteam has some brilliant idea how to do this...
>
> sincerely,
> Marije
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