Re: [LAD] JACK for openSUSE 11.0 x86_64

Am Dienstag, 16. Dezember 2008 schrieb torbenh@email-addr-hidden:
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 12:31:22PM +0100, oc2pus@email-addr-hidden wrote:
> > Am Dienstag, 16. Dezember 2008 schrieb Thomas Kuther:
> > > @ oc2pus, jack in packman is broken, or YaST is. I set up a fresh
> > > install in a virtual machine using 11.1RC1 and only added packman.
> > >
> > > Currently there is:
> > > * pulseaudio-module-jack-0.9.12-8.5
> > > * libjack0-0.116.1-0.pm.1
> > >
> > > Now if I tick the box in YaST to install "jack" it pulls in
> > > libjackserver2-0 and jack, which of course breaks things, as it keeps
> > > libjack0. zypper on the other side gets it right. See the screenshot!
> > > http://gimpel.ath.cx/~tom/jack_weirdness.png
> >
> > nor the packman package or yast is broken...
> >
> > pulseaudio-module-jack has a (wrong ?) requires to jack instead
> > libjack.so.1 (or a other program in your system) . And as there are more
> > than one provider for jack, yast pulls in the first provider for jack it
> > finds.
>
> and this is only possible because, there are 2 packages, for libjack and
> jack. Why do you think we distibute them in one package ?
> They make no sense without each other.
>
> STOP SPLITTING JACK UP.
This "fetaure" was not packman's idea ...

see openSuSE-shared-library policy:
http://en.opensuse.org/Shared_Library_Packaging_Policy

and even jack2 is providing this scheme:
http://trac.jackaudio.org/wiki/SuggestedPackagingApproach

* "jack server frontend" - virtual package provided by "jackd" and "jackdbus"
packages
* "jack server (library)" - package containing libjackserver.so at least.
Maybe also: essential tools, drivers, inprocess clients.
* "jackd" - package containing jackd binary. This package depends on "jack
server (library)"
* "jackdbus" - package containing jackdbus binary and jack_control script.
This package depends on "jack server (library)"
 * "jack client library" - package containing libjack.so
 * "jack client library dev" - package containging headers and pkgconfig file
for libjack.so
 * "jack server library dev" - package containging headers and pkgconfig file
for libjackserver.so

This shared library policy needs a lot of extra-work but it allows also to
update library packages without breaking existing packages and or
mass-rebuilds if a so-name of a library is changed (ffmpeg-libs, x264 are
well known candidates for changing often API).

And if we don't follow the naming-scheme of the base distribution we were lost
and have much more troubles.

have fun
Toni
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Received on Tue Dec 16 16:15:04 2008