On Tuesday 23 June 2009, Bob Ham wrote:
>On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 00:49 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
>> On Tue, 23.06.09 00:36, Fons Adriaensen (fons@email-addr-hidden) wrote:
>> > Since you claim that all the *Kit stuff is optional,
>>
>> (as a side note, I didn't claim that)
>>
>> > and you will still allow us to run our systems as we
>> > see fit, and since you wear a Red Hat, please tell
>> > me how to remove
>>
>> Just downgrade to FC5 or so.
>
>This response shows a real problem. The fact that you cannot disable
>these kinds of services without forking shows there's a design problem.
>The fact that these badly-designed services have become so widespread
>shows a deeper problem.
>
>Recently, money seems to have become quite influential in the free
>software community, typified by Red Hat and its efforts to drive free
>software development in a direction that suits enterprise customers.
>The quoted response shows an unwillingness for these parties to
>*cooperate* with communities and instead I see a desire to *dictate* to
>communities.
>
>Yes, I can fork Fedora and create a new distribution but that takes a
>great deal of time and effort. If Red Hat were interested in
>cooperating instead of dictating, that effort would not be needed; Red
>Hat would take on the responsibility of ensuring that their systems are
>flexible enough not to need a fork. Practically, that means designing
>software systems in such a way as they can be easily disabled.
>
>
>Being fuelled by money, this new influence in free software is
>susceptible to the control of any parties willing to spend enough. That
>opens the possibility of a fifth column within the free software
>community. I've previously argued that in future, it may be necessary
>to protect the interests of free software by forking away from this
>influence if it starts behaving as a fifth column.
>
>The above response shows that this influence is already having a
>detrimental affect on the quality of free software. I wonder if it
>won't be necessary to fork away from this influence, purely because of
>the sub-standard nature of the solutions it produces.
>
>RealtimeKit demonstrates this sub-standard nature in that it's a
>workaround. It provides an API to be used if a system call fails. This
>is not a problem in itself but there seems to be no desire to spend the
>time and effort needed to deal with the issue of why the system call is
>failing. Instead, there seems to be only a narrow-minded drive to
>produce the next-best *Kit, which will provide an all-new service to
>enable our enterprise customers!
>
>It's great that all these new Kits are putting free software in the
>hands of average users. What isn't great is that they seem to be
>hastily developed and without concern for the wider free software
>community. There will be consequences of this lack of concern.
>
>Bob
+10,000
PA is one of the biggest screwups ever, but red hat can't see it.
-- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) The NRA is offering FREE Associate memberships to anyone who wants them. <https://www.nrahq.org/nrabonus/accept-membership.asp> "In short, _N is Richardian if, and only if, _N is not Richardian." _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@email-addr-hidden http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-devReceived on Tue Jun 23 20:15:01 2009
This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.8 : Tue Jun 23 2009 - 20:15:02 EEST