Re: [LAD] [ANNOUNCE] Safe real-time on the desktop by default; Desktop/audio RT developers, read this!

On Wednesday 24 June 2009, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote:
>On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 10:33 +0700, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
>> On 06/24/2009 10:24 AM, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote:
>> > On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 18:44 -0400, Paul Davis wrote:
>> > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Fernando
>> > >
>> > > Lopez-Lezcano<nando@email-addr-hidden> wrote:
>> > > > see here for an interesting entry:
>> > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=442959
>> > >
>> > > that is hilarious :)
>> >
>> > Hmmm, well, not really. It means he has been working on this for a
>> > while. It is too bad that he only made lad aware of it after it was
>> > "ready to go"...
>>
>> It's not something that can be directly pinned on Lennart though. It's
>> not exactly empowering to have to fight for every inch before the work
>> is started.
>
>Yep, I agree, it does not speak very well of lad. I'm not sure what
>would have happened if he had visited lad earlier. It _could_ have been,
>for example, an invitation to work on the project, not necessary a
>request for open, scathing and insulting responses :-) On the other hand
>design by committee has usually little chance of success.
>
>There has obviously been discussions on this, just not here (lkml for
>once - I stopped merely scanning it a while back, impossible to keep
>up).
>
>IMO I would probably not have lasted as long as he did in this thread.
>Too many type and fire responses - as you mention below - with little
>thought or research (I'm guilty as well, of course).
>
>On the other hand he is a member of the lkml list and posts there, and
>lkml is not the kindest of environments. Maybe he expected something
>different of lad.
>
>> Maybe he wanted to conserve his mental energy for the actual code and
>> save the fight for a time when he could handle the load...
>>
>> It's becoming a recurring theme round here, maybe it has always been
>> this way? It seems to me that it's become more so in the past few
>> years.
>
>Maybe so. Or maybe we are (at least the older ones) in the slow process
>of "nothing like the old times" regression :-) I think that in a smaller
>community it is harder to not know somebody, specially in the case of
>lad after the first LAD Conference, and if you know somebody personally
>it is harder to (ab)use sarcasm or outright be insulting, email is
>faceless.
>
>> Lest we recall the eruption over getting lv2 into reactor or whatever
>> that app was.
>>
>> Maybe it's because we are all that much busier these days that it's
>> harder to find the time to edit our responses?
>
>Or maybe it is that the community has gotten bigger. Or both. I know I'm
>busier but that has been a constant for quite a while so it can't be :-)
>
>There may be a degree of anger as well that is directed to whoever stirs
>things a bit. I also have that, but I try to not let that influence my
>posts too much. Don't know how successfully.
>
>-- Fernando

A sane voice, and an good deduction. Better said than I could, thanks
Fernando.

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