Re: [LAD] LADI

On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 06:35:47PM -0600, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, 22 Dec 2009, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
>
> >So you agree with Fon's statement that if the jack_session code is
> >accepted you would not want to use jack1 any longer and would support a
> >fork or stop using it completely and create your own realtime audio daemon?
>
> Probably about as much as you agree with Stéphane's threat to do the
> same over dbus (which, IIRC, is closely related to the session
> management debates). :-)
>
> >I must have missed the part of the debate where it was agreed or even
> >defined that jack_session would not be able to play nicely with more
>
> Here's a few with the most recent proposal:
>
> * save/restore requires application to shut down and
> restart.
>
> * session callback does not work asynchronously

so you want it async ?
well... lets make it async then ?

>
> * process call graph must be halted during the
> session callback (a consequence of not being
> asynchronous).

wrong.

>
> Also, I wasn't comfortable with how the serialization should work...
> but it was too early in the process to pick nits on that.

please state your problems.

>
> >As far as I can tell the design process broke down mostly because one
> >person made a strong case for not having any other form of session
> >management except the one that he is working on (and is now saying he is
> >not interested in releasing publicly) and consequently wound the other
> >parties up to the point where they decided it was too frustrating or
> >stressful to discuss it any further at that point.
>
> Once it's in the JACK API, it won't be coming out. Likewise,
> changing it will be very difficult after the fact... so it needs to
> be right.
>
> If it's not in the JACK API, there is no argument.
>
> -gabriel

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