Re: [LAD] LADI

From: rosea grammostola <rosea.grammostola@email-addr-hidden>
Date: Fri Dec 25 2009 - 17:38:45 EET

Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Nedko Arnaudov wrote:
>> rosea grammostola <rosea.grammostola@email-addr-hidden> writes:
>>
>>
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>
>> [snip]
>
> http://www.google.de/#hl=de&source=hp&q=starting+jack+with+dbus+support&btnG=Google-Suche&meta=&aq=f&oq=starting+jack+with+dbus+support&fp=6e1a413bb204dd20
>
>
> did link to user wishes, e.g.
>
> http://old.nabble.com/dbus-support-for-jack--td26467201.html
>
> As a user never ask anything about multimedia at forums for
> non-audio-distros like openSUSE. Within one question you'll become a
> troll. Whatever. We can choose an audio-distro.
>
> I do understand that audio-distros can't be state-of-the-art all the
> time, but I don't understand that even if JACK without dbus support is
> preferred by some (maybe all) audio-distros, there isn't a second
> package for JACK supporting dbus.
>
> We users ask for this, but nothing happens.
The amount of users who wants LADI are not that large atm. Mainly
because they do not know what to expect after the disappointing progress
of LASH. When LADI preview 0.2 will be released I expect that at least a
part of the community want to use it, so that the ask for LADI and
jackdbus support for distro's will grow. That's why I find it important
to think about how to handle the jackdbus situation now, before many
users start using jackdbus/Ladish.

I'm not surprised myself that distro's doesn't support it yet. It looks
like the LA community is searching for ways to handle the situation now.
Package maintainers will pick up the results of the discussion and
solutions after. Don't forget they also have to deal with Jack1 and Jack2.
So first, LADI is not that mature atm, all though progressing quickly
now. Qjackctl doesn't work well with jackdbus atm. It's the question (at
least for me) what jackdbus means for the use of Ardour. It's still a
question about the best approach by distro's. Only jackd, only jackdbus
or both mixed?

When qjackctl can handle jackdbus in a satisfying way, and when it's
clear what a good approach is, jackd, jackdbus or both... then it would
be more easy to decide what and how to implement. Maybe you see it in
the 2010 distro releases, who knows.

Till then, the best way imo, is to have different repo's with jackdbus
and ladish packages, which people who want to test or use Ladish, can
use. You might want to contact Nedko about how to package this stuff (I
think he made some packages for Ubuntu 8.04 a while ago).

\r

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