Re: [LAD] Science (OT)

> and i don't think that i am crazy (or sociopathic) because i
> have hope that we are in fact living in an intact world right now.
> if I accept that the world isn't perfect and that "they" *lie* when
> they say that we are killing the *oh so sensitive* ecosystem BY JUST
> LIVING OUR LIVES,

with cell phones, for example. In Africa there are *wars* for
tantalium mines (uh, don't expect to see it on the news), which is
needed for small capacitors used in cell phones.
going to the toilet, for example. Every time you flush the toilet you
waste 5 liters of water (there are dry toilets, you know) while
increasingly many are dying of thirst (not hunger, thirst).

These are just two examples off the top of my head. It's just to point
out that it's such a complex topic (how our lives DO influence [heavily]
our ecosystem) that it's just plain silly to make fun of the whole thing
like you're doing.
As was pointed out, petrol shortage *is* the most important problem
right now, and the only aspect discussed of this is when will it end,
5,10,30 years? What does it matter? The fact is it will end, and it
will have immense consequences. Petrol is in our lives in such a degree
that most of us can't comprehend.
And petrol shortage is not a separate problem from climate. What other
deep-impact way of exploiting nature's resources (and exploiting us)
will multinationals find? They can make little money out of sun wind and
tides, you know. Certainly they have a [detailed] agenda.

BTW if you are ready to accept the horrible state of things, there are
many many things you can do. At best you'll be cynic and do nothing of
it, allright, OTOH I accept this and try to change something - in my
life first.

Renato
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Received on Thu Jan 7 12:15:02 2010