Re: [LAD] twice as loud

Excerpts from fons's message of 2010-07-23 12:13:32 +0200:
> On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 11:34:43AM +0200, Philipp Überbacher wrote:
>
> > > > We could think about what makes judging twice the
> > > > loudness more difficult and maybe find a relation to another phenomenon
> > > > this way. The limits of hearing apply to everything, but what about
> > > > factors like the time between two sounds or the length of the sounds?
> > >
> > > All of these affect both masking and loudness.
> >
> > Yep, but maybe some of the other possible factors match one phenomenon
> > but not the other.
>
> Indeed. As I said, this relation between 'loudness' and masking
> is pure conjecture, I have no hard arguments pro.

I had some more thoughts regarding masking.
If B masks A == B twice as loud?
Is it that simple?

The timing definitely plays a role in both cases.
When the masking actually happens, we can't tell that it is twice as
loud, we need the temporal distance.
We also can't tell when the time between the two sounds is too long.
Hence, we need a very specific time window to approximate the masking
effect of B with regards to A. Same is probably true for the loudness.
I didn't actually try to guess/judge a probable masking effect, but it
would be a nice experiment.

-- 
Regards,
Philipp
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