Re: [LAD] a case for a knob control standard?

On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 21:19:53 +0100
pete shorthose <pshorthose@email-addr-hidden> wrote:

> On 28/09/10 21:17, Arnold Krille wrote:
> >
> > When such an audio-gui standard and configuration is developed, I would love to
> > participate. And use it in my apps. I think its a good idea, especially the
> > idea of allowing the user to switch between circular and linear behaviour for
> > round controls. And have that changes affect all apps supporting this
> > "standard".
> >
>
> i prefer to have both available at once. i think galan does this.
> my need for the linear method stems from using the mouse for
> recorded modulation, which radial is useless for. (you need to describe
> a perfect circle in order to replicate the effects of a linear motion)
> some might argue that no one should use a mouse for this stuff,
> and they might be right, but i doubt they are offering to buy me
> a nice control surface either :)
>
> (even with such an alternative, linear mouse control is still
> highly convenient for experimentation and rough sketches.)
>
>
> > Please go on with this, don't bother with toolkits and how they implement
> > graphics, make it a configuration definition, a global / per-user config file and
> > think about some simple libs to give easy access to these configs in all major
> > languages like C, C++, python and maybe some more. (The less dependencies
> > these libs have, the higher the chance of adoption...)
> >
>
> some kind of reference lib could help, preferably a static lib.
> i hadn't thought of that. but bear in mind that most applications
> make use of a specific configuration back end. i would expect
> many developers to be loath to support more than one at once,
> splitting configuration options across different systems may be a deal
> breaker. but perhaps only so for the reference lib(s), not the underlying
> standard so there's no harm in it that i can see.
>
> we need input from the community to make it work though.
>
> would people consider using it?
> what control methods do people want/need? (a list of candidates
> basically)
>
> if people are sufficiently disinterested that they don't even comment
> then the opening question of whether it's a viable or not answers itself.
>
> cheers,
> pete.

While generally not liking rotary control emulations, when I do come
across these I will only use ones with a linear action, the others I
find impossible to use effectively.

I would also suggest the enhancements that Rosegarden uses. The first is
the the action is in fact x+y / -x-y, so that either vertical or
horizontal movement works.

The second is that if you double click on the knob it pops up a spin
box that shows the numerical range, has up/down spinners and allows
direct numerical entry.

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Will J Godfrey
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