Re: [LAD] Devs needed for opensource virtual analog softsynth idea

From: Sascha Schneider <ungleichklang@email-addr-hidden>
Date: Thu Jan 06 2011 - 12:25:30 EET

O.k. in more detail or just different explanation:

I love makin music with linux and I was looking for a dssi/lv2 synth I
could connectable to an external USB contorller to play arround with
sound more or less "live".
Then in the audio4linux irc someone pointed me to the Tyrell, an idea
how a real synth could be, based on Uservotes of that magazine, with
the idea of beeing a real synth on day maybe.
Moogulator has made a detailed descripion of all the knobs, functions
and routings of this synth and set in on the homepage.
Then, befor Xmas Urs Heckmann, a german VST-developer, jumped in and
said he would create this synth as VST, cause no company wanted to
build this synth as hardware for the price estimated, and offer it as
freeware VST.
I asked Urs if he also would consider creating this synth as native
Linux DSSI/LV2 plugin freeware nad he said .... maybe.

I have no problem even with paying for apps if they are really good,
but making a VST closesource, that is based on userinput of a
community ...... hmmmmm not really my idea of how the world should
run.
O.k. I understand Urs, cause his VSTs really sound good (on Win and
Mac) and cause he earns money with it, he doesen't want his algorithms
spread for free into the workd ...

So I searched an alternative to be something like the Tyrell, but
opensource and linux ...
Malte pointed me to his minicomputer, I love the sound ... this
synth-engine is .... I yust love it.

So changing idea ..... make a DSSI or LV2 of Maltes Minicomputer, that
is 4 or 8 voce polyphon and monotimbral, controllable with an external
USB-controller .... automatable with f.e. Qtractor and maybe .....
just maybe .... a bit more of an eyecandy .....

regards, Sascha

2011/1/6 Jeremy <jeremybubs@email-addr-hidden>:
> Okay, I think I am having a little difficulty understanding what's going on
> here.  At first I was under the impression that you were looking to port a
> VST plugin developed by this German magazine to a linux plugin format.
>  After reading your email, I think you're looking to develop a plugin port
> of minicomputer, whose features and UI will *parallel* those of another
> synth which is being developed by the magazine.  It seems that the VST
> plugin which I found (using a machine translation of the website) was *not*
> synonymous with the synth designs that you were pointing to.  So basically,
> if I am correct (and correct me if I'm wrong), the magazine posted design
> information about a synth, (but not anything else), and some unrelated
> programmer posted modifications of synths he previously wrote, which he made
> to fit the designs outlined in the magazine.  And you are hoping to *also*
> create a synth which fits these design goals, although you want to make it
> an open source linux synth plugin, rather than a closed source windows synth
> plugin.  Please let me know what of the above was incorrect.
>
> So, for a starting point, I've imported the minicomputer sources into a git
> repository:https://github.com/jeremysalwen/Minicomputer-LV2
> Jeremy
>
> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:49 AM, Sascha Schneider <ungleichklang@email-addr-hidden>
> wrote:
>>
>> 2011/1/6 Jeremy <jeremybubs@email-addr-hidden>:
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:09 AM, Sascha Schneider
>> > <ungleichklang@email-addr-hidden>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> 2011/1/6 Loki Davison <loki.davison@email-addr-hidden>:
>> >>
>> >> > You do have the required skills, just need to choose the right tool.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> By the way,
>> >>
>> >> to advance my skills C++ and DSSI/LV2 ..
>> >> is anyone willing to offer a mentorship??
>> >>
>> >> regards, Sascha
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>> >
>> > Hi Sascha,
>> > I have enough experience with LV2 plugins that I could probably help
>> > you, or
>> > do some of it myself.  I'm not the most knowledgeable guy around here,
>> > but
>> > this seems like a pretty limited scope project, so I think I could be of
>> > use
>> > as a "mentor".
>>
>> Oh thanks ..
>>
>> > However, I seem to have difficulty finding the source on the
>> > website you linked.  I registered for the for the forums, and I found a
>> > binary download for windows and mac, but nothing I could start hacking
>> > on.
>> > Jeremy
>>
>> Thats all they have for the Tyrell, the planing of this synth and what
>> it should do is described as a sort of manual in one of the links
>> http://www.amazona.de/index.php?page=26&file=2&article_id=3191&page_num=2
>> here from page 2 the moogulator describes in detail what the synth
>> does. Sorry, all in german.
>> Urs Heckmann a german VSTi developer took some of the code of his
>> existing VSTi's and made the alpha plugin within 3 days.
>> This U-He plugin will be free- or magware but will stay closed source.
>>
>> Therefor my idea after the post of Malte Steiner here was to take the
>> engine of his "minicomputer" from http://minicomputer.sourceforge.net/
>>
>> Malte himself had the idea of making this synth polyphon and
>> monotimbral as LV2 or DSSI plugin,  but lacks time.
>>
>> Advantage of this synth is that it is an absolutely lightweight.
>>
>> regards, saschas
>
>
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