Re: [LAD] [LAU] So what do you think sucks about Linux audio ?

Yeah, I posted that before I read the rest of the conversation around that topic. Good points. Michael ________________________________ From: Gabbe Nord <gabbe.nord@email-addr-hidden> To: Michael Bechard <gothmagog@email-addr-hidden> Cc: Devin Anderson <surfacepatterns@email-addr-hidden>; Dave Phillips <dlphillips@email-addr-hidden>; "linux-audio-user@email-addr-hidden" <linux-audio-user@email-addr-hidden>; "linux-audio-dev@email-addr-hidden" <linux-audio-dev@email-addr-hidden> Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2013 12:27 PM Subject: Re: [LAD] [LAU] So what do you think sucks about Linux audio ? Like said before, I think alot of user feedback could be gained if just there was a simple way to do it, and people got reminded. On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Michael Bechard <gothmagog@email-addr-hiddenom> wrote: I second the frustration on a lack of user feedback... > >Michael > > > > > > >________________________________ > From: Devin Anderson <surfacepatterns@email-addr-hidden> >To: Dave Phillips <dlphillips@email-addr-hidden> >Cc: linux-audio-user@email-addr-hidden; linux-audio-dev@email-addr-hidden >Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2013 11:09 AM >Subject: Re: [LAD] [LAU] So what do you think sucks about Linux audio ? > > >Hi Dave, > >On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 6:58 AM, Dave Phillips <dlphillips@email-addr-hidden> wrote: > >> Not enough native plugins, esp. instruments. > >I think this is one of the key problems with Linux audio.  Part of the >problem is that there is no clear mechanism for (non-developer) users >to create their own instruments.  Many VSTs are constructed with >modular DSP programs like synthedit and flowstone (formerly >synthmaker).  There's probably an opportunity here for Ingen or a new >graphical DSP program based on Faust to fill this hole. > >In general, I think that Linux audio has a lot of tools that help >users to create music, but not a lot of tools that help users create >their own tools (e.g. instruments, plugins, sample libraries, etc.) to >help others to create music. > >On the development side, I think Aurélien and others like him have the >right idea in taking instruments/plugins that are specific to a Linux >audio application and porting them to LV2.  There's a lot of awesome >instruments that are specific to applications (e.g. ALSA Modular >Synth, LMMS, etc.) that would generally be more useful if they were >LV2 plugins. > >> Poor external/internal session management. > >Interacting with external hardware can be frustrating.  Commercial >programs like Renoise account for external hardware in their workflows >(e.g. latency management, MIDI clock, MMC, etc.).  Most Linux Audio >apps don't do this. > >> Too much conflict/fragmentation within the development community. > >I've been trying to write something about conflict and fragmentation >for the past 10 minutes.  I think this is a complex issue.  I'm not >able to find the words to communicate about it right now. > >> So, in your honest and bold opinion as user and/or developer, what do we >> lack most and what can we do without that we already have ? > >As a developer, I'm missing a couple things: > >1.) User feedback. > >I can't stress this enough.  I watch the download counts increase on >the applications I create, but I hardly ever get feedback.  I'm >discouraged and frustrated by the lack of feedback. > >2.) Non-code developers > >We have a lot of dedicated open source developers writing Linux audio >apps, plugins, etc., but I have yet to meet an open source UI >designer, or an open source graphic artist.  I think a lot of the apps >we create could benefit from the feedback of a user interface >experience expert. > >There's probably more, but these are the two things that occur to me now. > >Dave, this is an important topic.  Thanks for taking it on. > >-- >Devin Anderson >surfacepatterns (at) gmail (dot) com > >blog - http://surfacepatterns.blogspot.com/ >midisnoop - http://midisnoop.googlecode.com/ >psinsights - http://psinsights.googlecode.com/ >synthclone - http://synthclone.googlecode.com/ >_______________________________________________ >Linux-audio-dev mailing list >Linux-audio-dev@email-addr-hidden >http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev > > > >_______________________________________________ >Linux-audio-dev mailing list >Linux-audio-dev@email-addr-hiddenrg >http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev > >

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