Re: [LAD] forking (was Re: Aeolus)

From: hermann meyer <brummer-@web.de>
Date: Sat Sep 21 2013 - 13:02:09 EEST

Am 21.09.2013 11:52, schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
> On Sat, 2013-09-21 at 08:52 +0000, John Rigg wrote:
>> On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 07:52:02AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>>> It's completely impossible to be on Fons site. When Fons has such a
>>> super-mind, why did he chose the GPL? Those simple-minded guy who forked
>>> Aeolus might have made a little mistake, but doesn't offend the licence.
>> Ralf, please stop this straw man argument about the GPL. Fons is understandably
>> irritated by someone forking his project without prior discussion. It's a
>> question of etiquette, not licence terms, as has been pointed out repeatedly
>> in this thread.
>>
>> It isn't difficult to find out that Aeolus is currently maintained; all it
>> takes is a look at the README in the sources, which contains release dates.
>> The 2007 copyright date which I think was mentioned earlier (I'm not going to
>> re-read this whole sorry thread to confirm that) is the copyright date for
>> GPL 3, not Aeolus. Again, this stuff is not difficult to check.
>>
>> Another point: copyright and licence are separate things. It is possible to
>> violate a copyright while still complying with the GPL. Adding one's own
>> copyright notice to someone else's original work without making substantive
>> changes to the work may be such a violation (IANAL, so that's speculation).
>>
>> John
> Hi John,
>
> I won't discuss this anymore, even while I've got arguments for
> forgiving mistakes and finding a solution. Don't talk to me, talk to
> "mgavioli" at https://github.com/mgavioli/oscAeolus/issues/1 , explain
> him his mistake and see if he does offended/offences etiquette because
> he's evil, or because he made a mistake and what's his opinion about the
> "issue".
>
> All those threads perhaps are completely useless, when just talking to
> "mgavioli".
>
> He made a mistake? Ok! And now? Making it a drama while it might be easy
> to solve, by just talking to him? He might think he didn't made a
> mistake, so he perhaps won't contact somebody, but he perhaps will reply
> if Fons or you send a request.

Only you make a Drama here, others try more to discuss this theme in
general.

> Why all this discussion with speculations instead of talking to the
> right person?
>
> "mgavioli" claims something and a presumption of innocence is good
> etiquette too. Isn't it? Or is it common sense to think the most worse
> first?
>
> Please, talk to "mgavioli" and try to find a consensus.
>
> Regards,
> Ralf
>
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