Subject: RE: [linux-audio-user] Loops
From: R Parker (rtp405_AT_yahoo.com)
Date: Thu Sep 18 2003 - 18:25:03 EEST
Mark,
Ardour has a configurable pre-roll that I imagine does
what you describe but haven't used it.
ron
--- Mark Knecht <mknecht_AT_controlnet.com> wrote:
> >
> > Currently, this *can* be done in ardour, but the
> steps needed
> > are less than intuitive.
> >
> > 1. make a range selection
> > 2. right-click to popup menu, choose "Select->New
> Location from selection"
> > (note, *not* Selection->LoopSelection !!)
> > 3. open the Locations window from the Windows menu
> > 4. check the Loop column for the location you just
> made
> > 5. Select the loop button (icon) in the transport
> bar
> > 6. Position the playhead somewhere in or before
> the loop area
> > and press play.
> >
> > When you change the checked loop location you may
> have to reselect
> > the loop transport button (bug). Also, when you
> delete a location
> > (by shift-right-clicking on the marker bar), it
> won't delete it
> > from the location window (bug).
> >
> > I will do my best to make this a much more
> streamlined process
> > in future versions of ardour.
> >
> > jlc
>
> Jesse,
> That's come along quite a bit.
>
> I'm not sure from your description above whether
> Ardour does this, but
> there is one thing you might want to look at for
> loop recording more human
> friendly. It's really nice if the loop selection and
> the recording selection
> can be made to be different lengths. The issue is
> that the musician needs to
> hear a lead in to the point where they start to do
> their work, and to make
> it human friendly the whole process needs to stay in
> the groove or it's hard
> to be musical.
>
> Consider this situation:
>
> 1) I'm doing a song with a guitar part that I'm
> going to record in two
> pieces. The first piece goes up to the end of
> measure 50, and the second
> starts at measure 51 and goes to the end of measure
> 59.
>
> 2) I've recorded something good for the first part
> and now I want to loop
> record the second part.
>
> 3) To get the groove right, I need the loop point to
> jump back to the
> beginning of measure 49 so I hear 49 and 50, and
> then as the play head
> crosses into 51 the recording starts and I record
> the second parts.
>
> 4) Fairly important is that I need to hear the first
> guitar part AND my live
> guitar through 49 & 50, but nothing I play in 49 &
> 50 is recorded.
>
> 5) Mucho important - Nothing about recording the
> second guitar part should
> be in any way destructive to the first guitar part
> that is already recorded.
>
> After all this gets done, then you end up doing
> fades between the audio
> segments, etc., to put it all together.
>
> Don't know how much of that you've already got.
> Quite a bit I expect.
>
> Cheers,
> Mark
>
>
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