Subject: Re: [linux-audio-user] asterisk open source linux pbx
From: Bob Knight (bk_AT_minusw.com)
Date: Thu Nov 11 2004 - 22:09:12 EET
Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote:
> I've recently been conscripted into the role of backup to our primary
> phone system admin with an eye towards leveraging my network admin
> background in our coming VoIP deployment. Due to this I've been cramming
> as much telephony information as I can into my brain over the past 3-4
> weeks. Our PBX (private branch exchange, i.e. the switch for our office
> phone system for those unfamiliar with the term) is a proprietary system
> from NEC. Having to deal with systems like this is contrary to my
> nature.
>
> To sooth the irritation of being rubbed the wrong way by this
> proprietary technology I've signed on to the asterisk users and dev
> lists with a few aims. First, as I expected, I've found the members of
> the asterisk community to really know their stuff when it comes to the
> standards and protocols that make phone systems work. In a few days of
> reading the lists I've already learned much that I haven't gotten out of
> the NEC manuals, but that helps me to better understand their closed
> system. Second, I'm hoping that down the road I can get an asterisk
> system into this operation to provide additional services and
> functionality that would be more expensive to purchase from NEC.
Welcome to the wonderful world of *. Now that you are on those lists
how will you ever get any work done?
I come from an audio back ground, Recording studios in the past and
I now have a live sound company (using EAW 750's). But I make my living
as a noop (programming nerd). I have been playing/using/installing *
for about 2 years now. You can contact me off list if you need any help
getting * running. Way cool stuff.
> I'm writing to LAU to get some feedback on a number of possiblities that
> come to mind for cross fertilization between this community and the
> asterisk community. Also I'm hoping there are some here who have
> experiences with asterisk they would be willing to share.
I am new to the lau world and list, but have come here for just about
the same reasons. My plans are to try and improve conceived audio
quality for voip phone calls. It really bugs me when folks tell me
how well skype phone calls sound. I was thinking it would nice to be
able to add audio plugins to the voip data streams. Some simple eq ing
and maybe a little compression could really make these things sound
a lot better.
> As I understand it asterisk can use ALSA supported full-duplex cards to
> provide voice i/o. An asterisk server with a number of connections to
> the phone network and several RME HDSP or other such high channel count
> multi-channel cards would seem to be a very useful, cost effective and
> high quality solution for supporting call-in shows and telephone
> interviews for a radio station. Such a settup could also provide a nice
> platform for an intercom system for a business or even a home. Is anyone
> here doing such things?
No, that is not a very good way to do it.
For something like that you would bring the calls in via a T1/E1
interface.
> Apropos my recent inquiry regarding bats, telephony has traditionally
> saved bandwidth by limiting the frequencies transmitted to a roughly
> 4kHz band since the information important to intelligible speech can be
> conveyed without the sounds outside that band. Are the concepts used to
> capture bandlimitted audio for speech the same, or similar to, what
> would be used to capture the interesting information from sounds
> produced by animals who hear above the human hearing range?
>
> There are a variety of audio data compression and synthesis/resynthesis
> schemes in use in the telephony world. Have any of these been repurposed
> for use as effects, perhaps wrapped up in LADSPA plugins?
>
> Are there similarities between jack and asterisk in what they need to do
> to provide audio routing and scheduling? Perhaps this has already
> occured or perhaps their needs are too different, but could the two
> projects benefit from sharing ideas or even code? If these are naive
> questions and the two domains are orthogonal I'm interested in knowing
> why. Hmm ... as I write I realize a big difference is that many phone
> conversations happen at once and have no need for synchronization.
> jack's typical application space involves keeping many channels of audio
> in sync. So, I guess I've largely answered this one for myself. But,
> still input from the system programming gurus like Paul and Jack would
> be most welcome and surely enlightening and educational.
Jack is another reason I started looking into the lau world.
The way * does it's mixing for a conference bridge is very weak.
I would like to see just how big a conference bridge jack could handle.
> I had a few other ideas and questions, but they've slipped away from me.
> Anyway, this has gotten long enough.
>
> Thanks in advance for reading and for any feedback.
>
> -Eric Rz.
>
>
-- Bob Knight [-w] the work option bk_AT_minusw.com 925-449-9163
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