Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: yet more music

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Date: Tue Jul 12 2005 - 17:40:30 EEST

On Tue, 12 Jul, 2005 at 02:03PM +0000, jmstone@email-addr-hidden spake thus:
> wrote:
> > On Mon, 11 Jul, 2005 at 11:04PM -0500, Jeremiah Benham spake thus:
> >> On Mon, Jul 11, 2005 at 06:25:31PM +0100, wrote:
> >> > On Mon, 11 Jul, 2005 at 07:45AM -0500, Jeremiah Benham spake thus:
> >> > > On Sat, Jul 09, 2005 at 12:42:37PM +0100, wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I starting to think guitar lessons would be a good idea. I love using
> >> > > > them, but since I can't actually play, I have to do it the long way
> >> > > > and they always sound a bit too regular.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > You can also write out the music in lilypond to give to one of us. I am sure you can
> >> > > find many people who would want to collaborate on a project. There are
> >> > > many fine musicians here.
> >> >
> >> > You mean all those little circles with tails?
> >> >
> >> > Whichever route I take, looks like I'll have to learn *something*!
> >> >
> >> > :)
> >>
> >>
> >> I am sure midi is fine also. Or it can be recorded and learned by ear.
> >> That may be a little more effort though.
> >>
> >> I was impressed by artifical feedback that you got when simulating the
> >> guitar sound.
> >
> > Well, I did what I never do: put distortion after reverb. It sounds
> > horrible, because the crackling goes everywhere in the spread and
> > sounds like a bad recording. But, with more reverb afterwards to make
> > it sound intentional, it sounded quite nice for a distorted lead.
> >
> On the subject of plugins, I was just listening to a few of your (very
> nice) tracked pieces on your website. In a couple of them it sounds
> like you have a filter frequency automation (dn505 there is a 303-like
> resonance tweak I think, and dumbstuff has a rising filter at the
> beginning on the first bassline). I was not aware this sort of thing
> was possible with Cheesetracker. Would you mind saying how it was
> done? The only ways I could think of was by routing through jack rack
> or a modular synth patch, but then I think you would have to record
> the filtered track on its own as cheesetracker only has stereo
> outputs, or alternatively by tweaking the plugins live?

Well spotted!

The biggest drawback with using cheesetracker is not being able to
automate plugin parameters. Personally, I think it more than makes up
for this in other ways.

ImpulseTracker introduced a new command, that CheeseTracker has also
implemented. I'm assuming you know the tracker family tree, or at
least this branch of it?

Anyway, the Z command is a lowpass filter. 0->7F is cutoff, 80-8F is
Q and the rest (upto FF, I think; I've never used it, strangely) is
for reverb send.

It might seem strange to have that one extra command, especially since
it has a very different effect to all the others - it applies
filtering instead of simple note adjustments. My theory, and this is
quite likely to be wrong, is that since it was added some time in the
90's, it was implemented precisely to emulate TB303-like sweeps which
seemed to be on every track at the time.

So there it is - the secret filter command. It's great, but you have
to be careful with it. Since it's the only automation trick you have,
it's tempting to overuse it. As a fan of mindless 90's hardcore
techno rave type stuff, I'm especially prone.


> All the best,
> James

What? No! That's *my* name!


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