Re: [linux-audio-user] Sharing samples via P2P

On Sat, 2006-03-25 at 01:12 +0000, james@email-addr-hidden-dot-dat.net wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Mar, 2006 at 05:53PM -0500, Dana Olson spake thus:
> > On Fri, 2006-03-24 at 22:34 +0000, james@email-addr-hidden-dot-dat.net wrote:
> > > On Fri, 24 Mar, 2006 at 09:50PM +0000, carmen spake thus:
> > > > On Fri Mar 24, 2006 at 04:09:00PM -0500, lee@email-addr-hidden wrote:
> > > > > bittorrent has command line clients. The bittorrent package in debian comes with two.
> > > >
> > > > BT is mainly designed for a few large files with brief initial bursts of popularity to sustain the distribution model..a few gigs of SXSW trailers, pirated movies, DVD ISO's or what not
> > > >
> > > > for a bunch of more obscure files (drum hits created with Smack, ZynnAddSub patches, asound.conf's), something like eMule works much better. i think we probably want something like that, only more minimal, and without all the warez. i think there should be a requirement for the network, Public Domain, CC, GPL/BSD/MIT licensed content only, or at least make it glaringly obvious if it isnt.
> > > >
> > > > has anyone investigated coral? it looks like some kind of public free distributed akamai..
> > > >
> > > > W.A.S.T.E. is an egregious waste of bandwidth, and i dont see it in portage anyway. what about freenet, anyone used that?
> > > >
> > > > i think a web interface would be best for categorization, commenting, forking, user-submitted revisions etc..then point to the actual content on freenet or coral (unless that rumour about paul's 1.8 TB of disk space and bandwidth just sitting idle is true..)
> > >
> > > The Circle (http://thecircle.org.au/) looks good.
> > >
> > > One file to download and go. Also has instant messaging and IRC style
> > > comms.
> > >
> > > We could have our own little network pretty quickly, methinks.
> > >
> > > Done properly, we could get a lot from something like this.
> > >
> > > James
> >
> >
> > There's another option, part of the GNU project: http://gnunet.org/
> > I don't know about other distros, but it is in debian for sure, adding
> > to convenience.
> >
> > I've never heard of Coral or The Circle before. And Freenet.. I looked
> > at it before, and it seems kinda complex just to share some
> > music-related files.
> >
> > I think that whatever we choose, it should be easy for most users to get
> > it installed. There are a lot of people who just want to use their PC
> > and the applications there, and don't want to have to download seven
> > libraries and compile everything from souce. Maybe no one on this list
> > minds, but we would really limit the possibilites to restrict it to just
> > us. Just my 2 cents..
> >
> > If I had the bandwidth and disk space (or money to fund it), I'd prefer
> > a website for all this stuff, including hosting of the files. It'd be a
> > lot more convenient - if James is offline, and he is the only one who is
> > still sharing MetallicDrumBeats.tar.bz2 which I wanna get, then I'm out
> > of luck. If it's on a website, then yay, I can download it.
> >
> > Hmm, what about a page at SourceForge? I don't know if they have limits
> > on something like this, but I remember seeing something on SF that was
> > not an application, but a website for free stuff. I can't remember
> > exactly what it was, but it might be possible that they would host it
> > happily?
>
> Argh! I hate getting stuff off source forge simply because of how
> many clicks it takes.

I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about using them for a web host
for a free software project... A big sample/preset library site. Where
you can download stuff through a webpage, not through SF's stupid file
management/CVS crappy stuff. I've seen projects that do just this thing,
without using the file/project management stuff.

> Personally, I was thinking more in terms of samples than complete
> pieces and had this idea that we would have a common library, accessed
> through p2p. Maybe a bit fanciful.

I understand. I just don't really think p2p is the best tool for this
job - aside from the bandwidth issue, an easy-to-use website is much
better suited.
 
> > Dana
Received on Sat Mar 25 04:15:19 2006