Re: [LAU] Goodbye ReplyTo munging...

Marc-Olivier Barre wrote:
> On 8/14/07, Florin Andrei <florin@email-addr-hidden> wrote:
>
>> If I set the list to remove duplicates, I only receive the private
>> reply, which depends on the email client of the sender, which may or may
>> not do the right thing. Therefore, filtering is less reliable, because
>> it depends on all those email clients out there to do something.
>
> The private reply will contain a cc: field which will _always_ contain
> linux-audio-user@email-addr-hidden.

Well... maybe, if the mail client does the right thing. If the user hits
the right button.
There's just no way around that - if Reply-To is not set, you rely on
the client, which may be well-behaved, or not. :-/ Not to mention the user.

I love de-centralization and whatnot, but sometimes you just have to
impose certain things.

> You might not have seen last weeks thread announcing the change. I
> gave a link to this page
> http://woozle.org/~neale/papers/reply-to-still-harmful which contains

What can I say, I disagree with almost everything in it. :-)

"Anyone who gets any spam at all knows how to delete email" - great, now
I have to deal with more spam, from the mailing lists. :-(

> a part named "Getting two copies of the same email". You will find
> here a second method to remove duplicates based on the Message-ID
> header.

But it's not a "method" - it just says "I hope your email client behaves
in a certain way, otherwise tough luck".

Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating Reply-To munging per se. If all
mailing lists servers and all mail clients were well-behaved, then it
wouldn't matter - some kind of list identifier would be set by the
server, and all clients would dutifully add it to replies going to the
mailing list. So then the reply could be sent directly, not through the
server and everything would still work.

The reality is, this is a world far from perfect. Reply-To munging is
the only way to keep things consistent across the board, no matter
what's the client or the server. If things get better (more
standardized) with email software then fine, stop tweaking the stupid
header.

-- 
Florin Andrei
http://florin.myip.org/
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