Re: [LAU] Mac Book Pro or not

From: julien lociuro <julien.lociuro@email-addr-hidden>
Date: Wed Jan 02 2008 - 16:49:51 EET

Yes, I understand now, but as I can see from 64Studio mailing list, it seems
that there is still no real support for installing it on MacBook. Some
Ubuntu can install, but not everything works. It is very tricky to get sound
work..Etc. I don't even think firewire cards will work, nor alsa-jack..
I have to wait for confirmations..(let's continue the discussion on the
other post: Laptop for live performance and recording*)*

Thanks.

Julien

On 02/01/2008, porl sheean <porl42@email-addr-hidden> wrote:
>
> it will all work normally under linux, it is osx that doesn't use alsa.
>
> porl
>
> On 02/01/2008, julien lociuro < julien.lociuro@email-addr-hidden > wrote:
> >
> > Hi Robert,
> >
> > Thanks for your advices.
> > There is something I did not really understand:
> > > As far as audio applications go, if the application can use portaudio,
> > > jack or coreaudio, you're probably fine, but if it needs alsa then
> > > you're not. This applies to midi as well, which is quite a limitation
> > at
> > > the moment, but will become less so as jack midi catches on.
> >
> > With the above you say that midi & alsa will not work. But will not work
> > in MacOSX or on a Mac (even with a linux partition) in general?
> > I mean, is it possible to install linux (have dual boot: mac osx and
> > linux) on a Mac, and from a linux distro like 64Studio, use midi and alsa
> > properly?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Julien
> >
> >
> >
> > julien lociuro wrote:
> > > > Is it worthy to buy a Mac Book pro? Has anyone ever worked with this
> > >
> > > > machine?
> > > > I see that a linux can be installed on it. Is this recommended? Has
> > > > anyone worked with the Mac OSX?
> > > > Can we directly install linux apps on it as it is unix-bases os?
> > > (with
> > > > some additional libs?)
> > > A lot of *nix apps will work on mac os x either in a Cocoa native
> > > version or using X11. There are various package management systems to
> > > help you with this if you like, such as Fink, Darwinports and Gentoo.
> > > They all have their pros and cons, for instance I've found that Fink's
> > >
> > > packages are often a little out of date, while the other two usually
> > > build from source, which can be an inconvenience.
> > >
> > > As far as audio applications go, if the application can use portaudio,
> > > jack or coreaudio, you're probably fine, but if it needs alsa then
> > > you're not. This applies to midi as well, which is quite a limitation
> > > at
> > > the moment, but will become less so as jack midi catches on.
> > >
> > > Apart from this, I can't think of any ways in which you are likely to
> > > be
> > > worse off running intel mac os as opposed to Linux, except that it is
> > > probably possible to squeeze extra performance out of Linux system.
> > > From
> > > what I understand, the Mach-based kernel that OS X was quite
> > > inefficient, although I have also read somewhere either that this has
> > > changed somewhat or that it is going to change sooner or later. My
> > > memory is a bit foggy here, so you'll have to do your own research.
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Also, my concern is that it really costs a lot..in europe, 1800? for
> > >
> > > > the basic model (15" monitor).
> > > > With that money, isn't it better to buy another great laptop?
> > > If you want to run an OS apart from Linux, you're much better off with
> > > Mac OS than Windows. There are, in any case, a number of ways to run
> > > Windows apps in Mac OS.
> > > >
> > > > Also, is there any problem with laptops and linux? How can I be sure
> > > > linux could installed on it..(graphic card, processor, firewire..)
> > > There are a number of websites addressing Linux laptop compatibility.
> > > The Ubuntu wiki I think has a good section on this. This can be a very
> > > tricky area. Chances are that intel macs will be relatively well
> > > supported like their predecessors, but you will need to do your
> > > research. One advantage of a mac is that if you do have problems with
> > > Linux hardware support, then you will at least have the option of
> > > switching to another quality OS that definitely "just works".
> > > >
> > > > Advices welcome!!
> > > >
> > > > Thank you very much.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > julien
> > > >
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