Re: [LAU] What Live is about (was: Re: ableton live in vmware)

My personal experience is that I've been able to create and record more
music, by a factor of about one thousand, using FOSS/Linux tools than with
commercial apps. Also, the music I've made is stranger and richer, which I
like.

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 1:00 AM, Thorsten Wilms <t_w_@email-addr-hidden> wrote:

> On Mon, 2009-08-31 at 20:56 -0400, Brett McCoy wrote:
>
> > I have to admit complete ignorance here, but what is it about Live
> > that makes it advantageous over DAWs like Ardour, Reaper, Sonar, Pro
> > Tools, etc? Is it primarily loop/clip/synth based rather than a hard
> > disk recorder/mixer like a traditional DAW?
>
> My knowledge is based on reading about it in magazines early on and much
> later using the trial version for a bit.
>
> When it came out, using software for live performance was seen as novel
> idea (there might have been an "underground" scene thinking
> differently).
>
> The minimalistic graphics optimized for clearness were a revelation.
> Dialogs are avoided, it's all in one window.
>
> AFAIK it allows tempo changes and immediately stretches/shrinks all
> audio to fit. Sony Acid might have been earlier with that.
> You can also add markers on clips and then move these markers and the
> material between markers will be stretched/shrunken to accommodate. The
> version I tried would do so "only" linearly :)
>
> I think the central new concept was having a matrix view, where you have
> columns for tracks/instruments and rows for "Scenes".
> Have a look at:
> http://digisound.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/3-big-rocker.jpg
> All those rectangles with play symbols are patterns.
> If you look down the "Master" column, it should become clear what scenes
> are about. Note that you can trigger any of the patterns any time.
> There's a sync feature that can make sure patterns will be started on
> the beat/next-measure.
>
> There's also a "traditional" arrangement view:
> http://www.kaosaudio.com/images/software/ableton-live-7-le-arrangement.png
>
> Nowadays there's a collection of deeply integrated synth "plugins".
>
>
> GUI-wise, you could always add such a matrix to an existing
> DAW/sequencer (not a small project, of course). But you need a backend
> that can play any pattern any time, with a sync-to-beat trigger feature.
> And live time stretching.
>
> So, none of the linux audio apps comes even close.
> A set of separate tools can never be a replacement (except with a
> not-seen-before sophisticated level of optional integration, perhaps).
>
> People can talk about the real or perceived shortcomings of linux audio
> tools all day. Doesn't change a thing. The vague and sometimes silly
> comparisons and the very foggy ideas what some commercial apps actually
> offer are damn frustrating. Would surprise me to read something *new*.
>
>
> --
> Thorsten Wilms
>
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