On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 08:31:46PM +0200, Hartmut Noack wrote:
> I do not say and I find it hard to imagine, that Lennart does not know
> about pro-audio needs. But he does not seem to give it any particular
> high priority.
Which is logical, as it is not his priority. But neither does he
ignore pro-audio.
> But facts are facts: most pro-audio people hate PA.
> And this hatred:
>
> 1) cannot exist whithout any reason
> 2) is harmfull and should be stopped by eliminating these reasons.
As one who has commented on PA before I may be allowed to say this:
I do *not* hate PA. I just don't need it, since I do not want any
'desktop' sounds on my machines, and I expect to be able to set up
a system without PA just as I can set up one without CUPS, or without
RAID, or replace Sendmail by Postfix, or in general choose whatever
subsystems I actually need.
What I *do* hate is that this has become near impossible with major
distros, since the way they set up 'a destop system' makes almost
everything depend on everything else, regardless of such dependencies
being real or not. A mail program is still fully functional even if
it doesn't start singing whenever a message arrives, and it should be
installable without any dependency on anything audio.
That this is not the case is not Lennart's fault. That he actually
seems to advocate this type of distro policies is another matter,
I can't explain it on rational grounds, and it is the main reason
behind my negative reactions towards him at some time.
Apart from that, *if* you want 'desktop sound' then PA is probably
the best thing since sliced bread. I was *very* surprised to learn
that PA at the moment does not have a native API, at least not one
Lennart would want to advocate. PA would gain a lot of appeal by
providing that.
Regarding user ignorance of PA's qualities and configuration options,
that is partly the result of what the 'desktop movement' aims to
provide. If everything is designed to be automatic and zeroconf
then the logical result will be ignorant users.
Ciao,
-- FA O tu, che porte, correndo si ? E guerra e morte ! _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@email-addr-hidden http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-userReceived on Tue May 11 00:15:05 2010
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