Re: [LAU] Fwd: Changes to the WebM Open Source License

From: Niels Mayer <nielsmayer@email-addr-hidden>
Date: Sun Jun 13 2010 - 01:33:53 EEST

In light of all these announcements, it's strange that Adobe decided
to drop support for the linux 64 bit flash player (
http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/64bit.html ).
Checking http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ and
http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/ , now I find that i386 10.1.53.64
is the only Linux release .

It looks like alternative architectures and platforms are going to be
Flash's Achilles heel: especially w/ the diversity of platforms that
mobile solutions will bring. I hope the open source community exploits
this weakness and will rally to help kick Flash and Adobe to the curb.
Multiplatform support is exactly what the open-source community does
well (e.g. http://www.linaro.org/ ).

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flash gives some more information on
the "hope" of WebM and the timeframe when said curb-kicking might
start:

> YouTube and WebM support
>
> Google has recently open sourced VP8 video format and combined it
> with Ogg Vorbis audio and a adaptation of the Matroska container
> to create a new format for free and open video and audio called
> WebM. YouTube is switching over to using WebM extensively and
> Fedora has embraced this format as well. Fedora 13 and Fedora 12
> has updates to Gstreamer multimedia framework to enable users to
> play many YouTube videos directly without any use of Flash via
> browsers such as Epiphany and Midori which use Gstreamer. Fedora
> 12 users also need the webkitgtk update. Once you have the updates
> installed, to enable support for it in YouTube, go to
> http://youtube.com/html5 and click on "Join the HTML5 Beta" link
> in the bottom of that page. Note that all videos are not available
> in WebM format yet but this is expected to happen over time. Here
> ( http://www.permadi.com/blog/2010/05/sample-webm-video-2/ )
> is a sample video for testing. Fedora 14 will have more extensive
> support for WebM by default.

Actually, it appears this will be supported well before Fedora14. Recent updates
indicate gstreamer-plugins now support VP8: libvpx-0.9.0-5.fc12.x86_64
( https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=593879 "Review Request:
libvpx - VP8 Video Codec SDK").

http://blogs.gnome.org/otte/2010/05/31/youtube-out-of-the-box/
> With today’s GStreamer update, you are able to watch WebM
> videos. That means you can enjoy Youtube with a stock Fedora
> 13. You need the following ingredients:
>
> The updates-testing repository enabled until the update hits the
> stable repository. A browser that uses GStreamer, such as
> Epiphany or Midori. Opting in to the Youtube HTML5 beta. A
> Youtube video that is already provided in WebM, such as this one (
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W0zjXh6gXE ) This update will also
> arrive in Fedora 12.

........

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flash#Installing_Gnash also points to
Gnash, which is unfortunately, hobbled by
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ForbiddenItems :

> Free alternatives to Adobe Flash
>
> There is a free and open source alternative called Gnash available
> in Fedora's package repositories. Gnash can play flash videos but
> the audio portion of Flash is often under the MP3 format which is
> patent encumbered. Since Gnash uses Gstreamer, you can get
> additional codecs from other third party repositories but Fedora
> unfortunately cannot include them. Scroll below for more details
> on installing Gnash. ...

...........
Niels
http://nielsmayer.com

PS: Is there a "codec dynamic loader" for http://lame.sourceforge.net
, such that applications can be compiled once, and then, at load time,
dynamically load and support MP3 if the lame-libraries are present?
Seems like such a "meta-lame" package would solve all sorts of
problems, such as having to provide both "free" and never-up-to-date
"nonfree" versions of most audio editing software,
e.g.:audacity.x86_64 1.3.11-0.1.beta.fc12 @updates vs.
audacity-freeworld.x86_64 1.3.7-0.6.1.beta.fc11 rpmfusion-free.
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