Re: [LAU] opinions from (potential) user perspectives wanted

On 5 July 2010 08:18, Philipp Überbacher <hollunder@email-addr-hidden> wrote:
> Excerpts from James Morris's message of 2010-07-02 15:37:33 +0200:
>> On 2 July 2010 11:46, Philipp Überbacher <hollunder@email-addr-hidden> wrote:
>> > Excerpts from Gabriel M. Beddingfield's message of 2010-07-02 01:57:17 +0200:
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, 1 Jul 2010, James Morris wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > It's like a sequencer in that the user will be able to create rhythmic
>> >> > patterns which lack pitch and velocity data, and almost like an
>> >> > arpeggiator in that it will automatically generate the pitch and
>> >> > velocity data from an algorithm - and unlike either a sequencer or
>> >> > arpegiattor, it uses a 2d window-placement like algorithm to generate
>> >> > pitch/velocity (mapping these to x/y).
>> >>
>> >> The more I think about this... the more fun it sounds.
>> >>
>> >> Have you considered doing an MDI interface?  This way you
>> >> can go back to spamming windows... but it stays contained in
>> >> your applications MainWindow.
>> >
>> > Since most window managers support a 'workspace' concept I guess it's
>> > not a big deal. But who uses xterm? :) And fixed size? What about tiling
>> > window managers?
>>
>> The window placement algorithm is done, and I spent quite some time
>> getting it working satisfactorily performance-wise, within real time
>> constraints. The idea is based upon window-manager window-placement,
>> but in the distant future - when the app is up and running with a nice
>> shiny GUI - the user might not ever care nor need to care, that the
>> boxes that appear simultaneously as notes are played is based upon
>> window-manager window-placement. I don't think it will be necessary to
>> place much emphasis on it's origins. It's only that way right now
>> because I've not evolved my thinking about how to describe it further
>> than "it's like a window-manager's window-placement" :-)
>>
>>
>> And what are you referring to as fixed size?
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> james.
>
> Quote:
> "It's currently in the "i demand an xterm at least 128 x 128 in size
>    but i still can't do anything you might want me to do" stage."
>
> As I don't really understand the concept I have no idea whether the
> terminal window size matters or not, it just seems like it would be
> large for windows that are placed for placements sake. As said before,
> I've no idea what I'm talking about since I don't know how window
> placement translates to anything musical.

I've tried to be as clear as possible here:
http://wiki.github.com/jwm-art-net/BoxySeq/at-a-glance

xterm is used only because writing to a terminal is the simplest
method for a program to provide a user with information about what is
happening. size of the xterm matters only if you want to make any
sense of what boxyseq is displaying - it won't affect the behaviour of
boxyseq in any way.

forget any ideas in your mind about boxyseq placing windows on your
desktop - this won't happen. all i've done is written some code which
emulates the window-placement strategy of the fluxbox window
manager... and used it for other purposes. with boxyseq, the "window
placement" is just a scanning of bits followed by a manipulation of
bits which happens within a data array.

the basis of the idea is best represented by the following single line of text:

"window-manager window-placement".

the simplest way to represent the data that results from this idea is
by creating a textual representation of that binary data and
displaying it in a terminal. (then i can watch in real time what is
happening :-) and see if it's working properly :-)

i don't want to implement a complex way (GUI) of representing the data
until i have a solid foundation to build upon.

really it is far too early for users to take any interest in this
program. but sometimes I just need some feedback about some of the
ideas i have before I can proceed further in its development.

Cheers,
James.

> --
> Regards,
> Philipp
>
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