Re: [LAU] re Subconscious Affecting Music

On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:06:33PM +0530, Rustom Mody wrote:

> 1. The great western classical tradition which started around Bach (or a few
> hundred years earlier depending on how you look at/hear it) suddenly died
> around 1900.
> Classical music degenerated into varieties of insanities like serialism etc
> and pop/rock etc emerged over the next 50 years out of what was earlier
> simple folk music.

That's quite an extreme way to put it I'd say. The 'great western classical
tradition' is by no means a continuum, it is divided in periods that each
had their own foundations and idioms. There are composers bridging the gaps
of course, but that doesn't much change the basic historic structure.

But yes, the early 20th century was surely a turning point in Western science
and culture - mathematics and physics went through a crisis and came out
stronger than ever, and in the arts - not only music - everything was turned
over and the outcome of this is still unsure. Much of this was questioned
in the final quarter of the 20th century (the postmodern movement), without
IMHO offering anything in exchange. What we have today is some form of
'eclectism' that has its place in contemporary society but in itself has
little power to survive.

> 3. The 'greatest' wars that humans have ever fought happened in the 20th
> century

What is a 'great' war ? This reminds me of the field manual that general
Turgidson (IIRC) is waving around in Kubrick's 'Doctor Strangelove' - the
title of it is 'World Targets in Megadeaths'.

Ciao,

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