Re: [LAU] Limiters?

On Monday 11 July 2011 23:00:38 S. Massy wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 10:03:22PM +0200, Arnold Krille wrote:
> > On Monday 11 July 2011 21:43:41 Folderol wrote:
> > > On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 15:04:44 -0400
> > >
> > > "S. Massy" <lists@email-addr-hidden> wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I won't jump into this fray of art vs. technique, as its just too
> > > > dicey. I agree with you, Fons, on the distortion introduced by
> > > > limiting; but do you have any theory as to why most people actually
> > > > seem to like it? My experience is that people seem to feel lightly
> > > > compressed, open mixes are weak, but will take to a "brutalised" mix
> > > > enthusiastically. Do you have a theory? Also, aren't we a bit of a
> > > > slave to whatever people happen to like, however much we might feel
> > > > it is inferior?
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > S.M.
> > >
> > > I wonder if it is simply the fact that the distortion gives us a clue
> > > that the equipment is working as hard as it can. I've noticed that
> > > Fuzz on a guitar seems to make it sound louder than a clean signal
> > > that is actually a far higher amplitude. More 'width' seems to
> > > outweigh more 'height'.
> >
> > I think (at least) for distorted guitars its the amount of
> > high-frequencies that counts to our ears. Pure amplitude isn't
> > everything, you have to look at the level per (logarithmic) frequency
> > band. White noise "sounds" louder than pink or brown noise too.
>
> But you can't compare electric guitar distortion with the kind of
> distortion we're talking about here.

Yes, I can :-) I didn't talk about harmonics vs non.harmonics. I talked about
additional high-frequencies in general. For the power/freq its not important
if its the 8th-harmonic or the 7.57357842th harmonic. But for the perceived
loudness is influenced by this. Whether its pleasant to hear or not is on a
different page.

Have fun,

Arnold

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