Re: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?

> My question/answer:   "How much are you willing to do to make it happen?"

Well I'm not exactly sure anymore to be honest, I didn't think my
message would start such a rant!

But after reading all the answered, two things seem to stand out:
1. A lot of the FOSS music software are not for the general public. I
wouldn't agree myself (I mean, Ardour, Hydrogen or Yoshimi are as
straight forward as a music software can be)... And for that, nothing
much I/we can do but participate to the code (which I do when I can),
make donations (which I do every year), provide feedback, provide bug
reports, etc, etc, etc...
And obvisouly use the software and produce some tunes! Which I do too:
http://soundcloud.com/a-violent-whisper
(Although now I realise that nowhere I say that it's completely
recorded/produced with only FOSS softwares!)

2. More interrestingly, the "appeal to famous artists" didn't seem to
be well received... What seems to come out though is that although the
FOSS community seems to be good to produce software, we don't seem to
be good at advertising it :)
- Ardour has...49 followers on facebook... Nothing on the wall...
- Hydrogen...94...and one entry on the wall...
- Couldn't find a # tag for any of these on Twitter...

I know I know, we are not advertisers, we are developers!
But what if a small group of us (and yeah, including me :)) would do that?

How do we go about that? We have loads of website/tools to share code
and software (sourceforge, svn, git, etc..), but none to organise
ourself into a community to create some kind of organised campagn of
advertisement on social networks (or other tools)!

What I have in mind is what was done by ThisOneIsOnUs... what they did
for their production is exacty what we do every day for FOSS
software...

Any ideas?

> -Mike Mazarick
>
> PS - sorry for the top posting, but I thought it better in this instance
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Aurélien Leblond [mailto:blablack@email-addr-hidden]
>> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 11:07 AM
>> To: linux-audio-user@email-addr-hidden
>> Subject: [LAU] An appeal to famous artists?
>>
>> I'm writing this post because of a few experiences I had over the
>> years into world of amateur music production (but I'm sure it does
>> applies to every artistic domains).
>>
>> I'm an amateur musician and a Linux enthusiast, and even though I work
>> as a developer, my professional activity doesn't directly have
>> anything to do with both these
>> domains (although in the case of Linux this is quite a shame, but
>> that's another subject). But one thing I am surrounded with at work is
>> fellow musicians.
>>
>> I have setup a pretty nice home studio in my flat: electronic drumkit,
>> alright USB sound-card, good quality speakers, electric guitar, pretty
>> big guitar fx board, USB
>> keyboard with a lot of knobs, few synthesizers and......a laptop
>> running Ubuntu, Ardour, Hydrogen, AlsaModularSynth, Yoshimi, LV2, etc,
>> etc and etc...
>>
>> A few of these colleagues came to my place to play music, and all of
>> them were impressed by the level of investment, and invariably the
>> first question that comes
>> up is the price of all the hardware and software... So when I
>> explained that I gathered the hardware over the last few years and
>> that the software is free, I always get
>> that little wink and smile:
>> - “haaaa 'free'? Bittorent yeah?”
>> - “no no no...not THAT free... I'm using Linux, and I'm trying to make
>> a point of using only free software in my music production... Actually
>> it's not free as you think it is,
>> I do try to make some donations every year, blablabla...”
>> And invariably, I get “the look” (you all know which one I'm talking
>> about)...
>>
>> As the sessions go on and my colleagues see the different software in
>> actions, they always start to make the comparison with what they use
>> in other OS: “Wouah I
>> can't do that with my drum machine! And this software Ardour is pretty
>> cool, and I really like the sound of this synthesizer! What is it?
>> AlsaModularMix you say?
>> Well it looks weird but I like it!”...
>>
>> Then as the conversation goes on on gears and software, it generally
>> goes like this “oh, I bought this synth because Trent Reznor from Nine
>> Inch Nails is using it
>> and I wanted to get that sound...”, “this guitar fx? Bought it because
>> the guys in Slayer are using it and I love” (yes all my mates and
>> myself are metal heads!).
>>
>> So I started to think... And I thought a little bit more... All the
>> people I know in the music world, we always use references to known
>> artist: “Trent Reznor uses this,
>> The Edge uses that, Brian Eno has this synth, etc”. There is even a
>> website that list the gears used by famous guitar players.
>>
>> I have a couple of friends back in my home country who are trying to
>> build up a recording studio... They work 100 hours a week recording
>> and promoting local bands,
>> they eat pasta because the money is tight.......but they spent I don't
>> know how much into brand new Macs and software licenses...
>>
>> I can hear you from here already “WHY DID YOU NOT TELL THEM ABOUT
>> LINUX???”
>>
>> Well......I did:
>> - “Yeah RIGHT! Every known musicians use Macs! They are designed for
>> artists!”
>> Really? Who decided that? Aaaaaaahhhhh yeah I forgot, Apple is very
>> good at advertisement... See that little illuminated apple at the back
>> of every of their laptops?
>> That sticks out well when Trent Reznor posts pictures of his studio,
>> or when you see pictures of ?uestLove on stage...
>>
>> - “Linux and stuff... It's for free... It must sucks... I mean you
>> need loads of research and money to create the software to play
>> music...”
>> Really?
>>
>> - “It's not stable enough...”
>> Ok, I give you that... But we have come a long way... And I bet that a
>> good Ubuntu setup without alpha or beta versions of any software would
>> be stable...
>> And obviously the user base on proprietary software is bigger, so more
>> testers, more feedbacks... But hey, look at my laptop, pretty stable
>> no?
>>
>> - “It's too complicated... with these command lines and all...”
>> Hmmm yes and no there... Yes setting up a Linux machine with a low
>> latency kernel is quite complicated... But remind me how much did you
>> spent to setup your
>> Mac? And yeah you are right, we used command lines in Linux... But YOU
>> don't have to! When was the last time you saw a Linux machine? Ah
>> yeah, when I
>> show you my Mandrake machine 10 years ago... Well we came a long way
>> since that time, you should check it again! I mean playing, recording
>> and producing
>> music on a computer IS a complicated business, whatever OS you use.
>>
>> - “And when it doesn't work, who do I ask?”
>> Hmmmm, when Cubase doesn't work, what do you do? Oh yeah, you google
>> your issue and you browse around forums to find a solutions...
>> Actually when you have an issue with your mac in general, is it Apple
>> or a dude on some forums who gives you the solution?
>>
>> So I thought a little bit more... In the world of artists (I thinking
>> here especially about music, but it is probably right in other
>> artistic domains), brands are created
>> because artists use them, no?
>>
>> And SERIOUSLY, in the world of music, the Open Source world certainly
>> have brilliant tools! And the Open Source certainly has to speak to a
>> lot of artist if they
>> knew about it? The sense of freedom, the sense of sharing? Isn't it
>> what Bob Marley or Rage Against the Machine were singing about?
>>
>> Trent Reznor (yes, I am a big fan) has been releasing music under
>> Creative Common licenses... He let the people decide how much they
>> wanted to pay for
>> some of his albums (remind you of something? Donations?). He let fans
>> record all the concerts of his last tour, let them mix it, cut it,
>> produce it, package it and
>> sale it (check out ThisOneIsOnUs). He even provided the tracks of some
>> songs for the fan to have fun and mix them differently... Surely a guy
>> like that would
>> understand the value of Free Software. And where there is one, there
>> might be others...
>>
>> (Sorry for the long introduction but) What I am getting at is this:
>> Should we make an appeal to artists to produce something using only
>> Open Source software?
>> What do you guys think? Isn't it the best time to promulgate such a
>> message, with the social media and all? And if yes, what would be the
>> best way?
>>
>> Or am I completely wrong? And there is something in the big picture I
>> didn't see?
>
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