Re: [LAU] Linux 3.2.0-rt Kernels on Debian Repos!

From: david <gnome@email-addr-hidden>
Date: Fri Feb 24 2012 - 21:35:39 EET

On 02/24/2012 02:29 AM, Robin Gareus wrote:
> On 02/24/2012 06:19 AM, david wrote:
>> On 02/23/2012 07:03 PM, hermann wrote:
>>> Am Freitag, den 24.02.2012, 02:45 +0100 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
>>>>
>>>> Don't use a borked distro! If your distro don't provide the nv driver,
>>>> but replace it with an experimental driver, that knowingly isn't
>>>> working
>>>> for half of the NVIDIA graphics on the market, such as the nouveau
>>>> driver, than your distro is borked!
>>>
>>> No, then your distro is full GPL'ed. ;-)
>>
>> But still borked.
>
> The borked part is where you gave your money to NVidia.

Well, there's no real alternative unless you want an Intel-only setup.
My 2 laptops (which are Intel only) have their video problems, too,
because the FLOSS Intel drivers still have issues, too.

> What's even more borked is to blame the free software community for the
> subsequent problems you experience.

I don't blame the free software community. But the free software
community is the one developing the drivers. I certainly can't blame the
vendor for them, since they had nothing to do with developing them.

>> I have a couple of motherboards here, one new in my
>> desktop PC, with NVidia graphics. The Nouveau driver doesn't support the
>> old NVidia hardware, and Debian Sid no longer includes the NV driver
>> that DOES work with old hardware. The Nouveau driver barely supports the
>> NVidia in my newest motherboard.
>>
>> Sorry, I don't consider the Nouveau driver ready for primetime,
>
> Does anyone say it is? Respect the people who /fight/ for your freedom.

I do. They should just keep up the NV drivers that DO work until the
Nouveau drivers also work AND SUPPORT THE SAME HARDWARE, instead of
dropping NV completely.

>> they
>> should still supply and continue developing the NV driver, or give up
>> the attempt at idealism and include the NVidia binary drivers.
>
> I'm afraid it's not that simple.

Yah, other distros have all kinds of complex problems keeping them
around. Not.

-- 
David
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