On 08/16/2012 03:42 PM, Marcel Bonnet wrote:
> On 16 August 2012 10:11, Marcel Bonnet<marcelbonnet@email-addr-hidden> wrote:
>> On 16 August 2012 08:35, Paul Davis<paul@email-addr-hidden> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 4:49 AM, Nils<list@email-addr-hidden> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Am Wed, 15 Aug 2012 23:22:22 -0300
>>>> schrieb Marcel Bonnet<marcelbonnet@email-addr-hidden>:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi, there.
>>>>> What about these samples
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.philharmonia.co.uk/thesoundexchange/make_music/samples/library/
>>>>> ?
>>>>>
>>>>> "License: You are free to use these samples as you wish, including
>>>>> releasing them as part of a commercial work. The only restriction is
>>>>> they must not be sold or made available 'as is' (i.e. as sampler or as
>>>>> a sampler instrument)."
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm just starting with them. I think any linuxsampler user probably
>>>>> knows, but what do you guys think of these samples? Does it meet the
>>>>> tech and license requirements? My first bad impression is about the
>>>>> sample format, they are all distributed as MP3 - I would consider a
>>>>> non compressed format instead.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello Marcel,
>>>>
>>>> the License means that you can't compile the samples in soundfont,
>>>> gigastudio, kontakt etc. file. I guess the intention of the license is
>>>> to prevent .sfz as well, although technically you could argue that the
>>>> samples are still "as is" in sfz format, there is only a meta file
>>>> added. But the same is true if you compress them and include metadata,
>>>> so the case could be made for any sampler format.
>>>
>>>
>>> if you really wanted to set things up so that many people could use them,
>>> you could distribute them as-is with a script that generated an sfz, or as a
>>> script that fetched them from the original site, and then generated an sfz.
>>> the license wording though is really non-sensical, and in fact as it is
>>> written, my interpretation would be "you cannot give these to anyone else in
>>> the form in which you have received them ("as-is") - if you distribute them
>>> it must be free of charge and in some OTHER format".
>>
>> Thanks, folks. This topic is really making me understand the legal and
>> tech problems in another way.
>> I think I did not paid enough attention to the "as-is" problem,
>> because I found - can't remember where - some brass and strings GIG
>> files, using the mentioned London Philharmonia samples...
>>
>> --
>> Marcel Bonnet
>
> FYI: back to the philharmonia site, I decided to take a loot at
> http://www.philharmonia.co.uk/thesoundexchange/terms_and_conditions/ ,
> see this item:
>
> 4. In accessing the Philharmonia website you agree to access the
> contents solely for your own personal, non-commercial use. You are not
> permitted to copy, download, store in any medium (including any other
> website), distribute, transmit, broadcast, show in public, adapt or
> change in any way any part of the Philharmonia website for any other
> purpose without the prior written permission of Philharmonia or in
> accordance with the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988 or other
> applicable law.
>
> So it seems illegal to make a script to download the samples, as
> suggested by Paul :(
>
> So they give us samples, they all know their samples are going to be
> used in recordings, but every user must repeat the same damn job to
> package the samples into a sampler. It's not reasonable to me.
>
Explain your plan to the owners of the website and ask if they are
willing to help you with this and how they explain their license.
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