Re: [LAU] First impressions of MusE 2.0

Hi Lorenzo!

> One oddity I've seen in Muse's piano roll (vs Rosegarden) is that it won't
> play notes when you add them or edit them (esp. change their pitch, thus not
> providing auditory feedback and having you rely only on the visual clue), I
> think this is a shortcoming especially when using the piano roll as an
> 'instrument' (imagine composing at the piano and only being able to *see*
> the keys and not hearing the sound they produce...)

Very good point - I just filed that as a feature request for you and
as a reminder for Tim and Robert:

https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3567893&group_id=93414&atid=604225

Thanks!

>
>> Enough about MIDI, what about audio? Reading the Ardour forums and
>> having spent much time in its irc channel, I know that one of the most
>> frequent feature requests is integrated wave editing and I'm sure Rui
>> has had more than a few requests for such a feature in qtractor too so
>> I'd say one of the biggest selling points of MusE is that it would
>> seem to be the only Linux DAW to offer integrated audio editing.
>
> Again a debated and debatable feature. There are some cases (not sure how
> much they are corner) when working in Ardour that I'd like to be able to
> edit a clip individually, for example to do envelope stuff without fear that
> moving the clip will totally disrupt the envelope.
>
> That said contrary to what seems most popular consensus I would prefer
> sequencers not to have audio and DAWs not to have midi. I do love jack
> transport and the modularity jack offers. That probably also comes from the
> fact I use Pure Data for many projects (and one couldn't thing to have a
> mega-daw with daw + sequencer + effects + dataflow ...).
> Just now, I am working on a video sonification project and at times I have
> Rosegarden + Ardour + Pure Data with various patch windows open + the video
> window (xjadeo) all talking via jack - I can test 'synthy' stuff by sending
> MIDI to Pd see how it fits with the video, if I want fire up a synth (say
> yuoshimi), another patch... This would clearly not work in a
> single-window-windows-style application.
> (Will go into detail about this once the project is done)
>
>> The
>> editor is basic but it has the most commonly used audio editing
>> features so chances are you won't have to use an external editor much,
>> which is something else MusE supports, should the internal editor not
>> cut it. At this point I'll mention that the only real bug I seem to
>> have found in MusE so far is the audio editor doesn't work for me
>> under 64 bit Deb Wheezy although it works fine under 32 bit Wheezy and
>> Robert says it works for him under 64 bit Kubuntu too.
>>
>> I had trouble working out how to record audio into Muse at first as it
>> wasn't documented at the time but the docs have been updated to cover
>> this since I raised it as an issue. Just looking at this process,
>> compared to Ardour and qtractor Muse is the least user friendly when
>> trying to set up a track to record but once you know how its done its
>> not a prob and this was the only aspect of the program that had me
>> scratching my head. Otherwise I think MusE is the most user friendly
>> Linux DAW and I didn't have to inquire about or refer to the manual
>> for anything else. I was also disappointed that MusE 2.0 doesn't
>> currently support the creation of mono audio tracks although you can
>> change stereo to mono tracks and creating mono tracks is to be added
>> soon. MusE allows the easy drawing of automation curves for gain, pan
>> and LADSPA FX and apart from the two slight probs I've mentioned, it
>> looks like I should enjoy working with MusE for audio as well as MIDI.
>>
>> Observant readers will have noticed that despite my praise for this
>> new MusE I said "My Linux sequencer of choice at the moment is
>> qtractor" because it supports native VST and LV2 plugins, it is more
>> stable and lightweight than A3 and it will likely remain my choice
>> until the big MusE showstopper gets resolved - plugin support. Like
>> Rosegarden, MusE currently only supports LADSPA and DSSI plugins which
>> is fine IF you don't use MIDI, you only use external MIDI sound
>> modules OR you are happy with MusE's integrated synths / the very few
>> DSSI plugins available / LASH sessions.
>
> Aren't you missing external software synths etc. (fluidsynth, linuxsampler
> etc.)?
>
>> You could use Windows VST
>> plugins via DSSI-VST with it but that isn't an option I'm interested
>> in nor would anyone else who is concerned about plugin performance and
>> stability care much for DSSI-VST.
>
> brrrr :)
>
> [...]
>
> A final remark on sequencing and midi editing. One think I really don't like
> about any sequencer out there, and which clearly has been copied by Cubase,
> is the idea of 'clip' for midi. While the concept makes sense in audio DAWs
> I always found it limiting... It might be because my first sequencer was
> Cakewalk Apprentice for DOS and it is the way the subsequent Cakewalk family
> handled it: but no clips just the possibility of unlimited midi feels much
> 'spacious' and 'creatively cosy'...
>
> Lorenzo.
>
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