Re: [LAU] hdsp not happy with recent kernels

From: Michał Koziarski <koshimazaki@fastmail.fm>
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 22:40:56 +0100

> On Thu, Sep 13, 2012, at 17:29, Peter Lutek wrote:
>> greetings!
>>
>> perhaps some of you use RME hdsp hardware. i'm wondering if you're
>> running into
>> issues like mine with recent kernels....
>>
>> i've got an hdsp multiface hanging off an expresscard adapter in a T520
>> thinkpad.
>> here's what's going on:
>>
>> hdspmixer locks up soon after starting, saying, "HwDep ioctl failed.
>> Metering
>> stopped"
>>
>> once that has happened, if i try to start jack, i get this:
>>
>> plutek@palnote:~$ jackd -dalsa -D -Phw:0,0 -Chw:0,0
>> jackdmp 1.9.9
>> Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others.
>> Copyright 2004-2012 Grame.
>> jackdmp comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
>> This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
>> under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details
>> JACK server starting in realtime mode with priority 10
>> control device hw:0
>> control device hw:0
>> audio_reservation_init
>> Acquire audio card Audio0
>> creating alsa driver ...
>> hw:0,0|hw:0,0|1024|2|48000|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|32bit
>> control device hw:0
>> ALSA: Cannot open PCM device alsa_pcm for playback. Falling back to
>> capture-only mode
>> Cannot initialize driver
>> JackServer::Open failed with -1
>> Failed to open server
>>
>> alternately, if i start jack after a reboot *without* first starting
>> hdspmixer,
>> it runs for a few minutes (variable), then fails thusly:
>>
>> plutek@palnote:~$ jackd -dalsa -D -Phw:0,0 -Chw:0,0
>> jackdmp 1.9.9
>> Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others.
>> Copyright 2004-2012 Grame.
>> jackdmp comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
>> This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
>> under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details
>> JACK server starting in realtime mode with priority 10
>> control device hw:0
>> control device hw:0
>> audio_reservation_init
>> Acquire audio card Audio0
>> creating alsa driver ...
>> hw:0,0|hw:0,0|1024|2|48000|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|32bit
>> control device hw:0
>> configuring for 48000Hz, period = 1024 frames (21.3 ms), buffer = 2
>> periods
>> ALSA: final selected sample format for capture: 32bit integer
>> little-endian
>> ALSA: use 2 periods for capture
>> ALSA: final selected sample format for playback: 32bit integer
>> little-endian
>> ALSA: use 2 periods for playback
>> ALSA: poll time out, polled for 31999183 usecs
>> JackAudioDriver::ProcessAsync: read error, stopping...
>>
>> i'm on the aptosid distribution.
>> alsa-tools-gui is 1.0.25-2
>> although running jackd says "jackdmp 1.9.9", my installed debian package
>> is
>> jackd2 1.9.8~dfsg.4+20120529git007cdc37-4
>> alsa is 1.0.23+dfsg-4
>>
>> and here's the clincher:
>>
>> kernels up to and including 3.1-6 make it all work fine (with the same
>> versions
>> of other things as listed above). however, kernels 3.2.0-3 and higher all
>> cause
>> the issues reported above.
>>
>> so, i guess the bottom-line question is whether other folks are running
>> hdsp
>> hardware successfully on 3.2 or more recent kernels, or whether we're all
>> stuck
>> at 3.1 for now?
>>
>> amusing side-note: i'm trying to use a wacom tablet, which is fine with
>> the 3.2
>> and higher kernels, but not with the 3.1 -- haha!!
>>
>> please let me know if you have any relevant observations on this; it'd be
>> nice to
>> have some reassurance that my multiface isn't seeing the beginning of the
>> end!
>>
>> thanks in advance.... cheers!
>> .pltk.
>
> Peter, do you have PCI Express power management turned on in the BIOS on
> your Thinkpad? I'm using a Multiface with the HDSPe expresscard on a
> Thinkpad X220, working fine now. I had to turn that power management
> option off because it was causing trouble. My issues were more severe
> though. The whole system would be extremely slow to start up and then
> respond to any of my actions with the expresscard plugged in. The exact
> behaviour might be different from machine to machine though and I
> believe it has to do with some incompatibility between the Thinkpad PCIe
> implementation and the RME card. Seen these issues mentioned on RME
> forums.
>
> That you're having issues with newer kernels might somewhat support the
> power management theory because Linux behaviour regarding PCIe ASPM
> (active state power management) has changed at some point, 3.2 I think -
> it is now supposed to better detect whether the system supports ASPM and
> enable it to save power, whereas before it would not enable it on many
> systems (info from phoronix,
> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_aspm_solution&num=1).
> Strange though that your self-compiled 3.0 has the problem as well.
>
> Long post and might not even have anything to do with your problem but
> worth a try I guess.
>
> Michał

wow... thanks very much for this! indeed, *sometimes* my system behaves as you are describing on start-up, and pulling out the ExpressCard adapter returns it to normal. so, maybe this is heading in the right direction. it does make sense!

so, i've disabled ExpressCard power management in BIOS, and i'm watching jack run with my most recent kernel (Aptosid 3.5.4). so far, he hasn't fallen over...... ;-)

i'll let y'all know!

cheers!
.pltk.
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