Re: [LAU] Google TV device w/ AV out

On Wed, June 19, 2013 8:08 am, Dan MacDonald wrote:
> Hi Jeremy!
>
> Thanks for your report! Pretty much what I expected, unfortunately!
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Jeremy Jongepier
> <jeremy@email-addr-hiddenwrote:
>
>> On 06/18/2013 11:14 AM, Dan MacDonald wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for sharing that Jeremy!
>>>
>>> What are you going to use your 3066 for?
>>>
>>>
>> Hi Dan,
>>
>> I'd like to use it for doing real-time lo-latency audio. Basically the
>> same way I'm using my Raspberry Pi.
>>
>>
>> What are your initial impressions and findings?
>>>
>>
>> Ambivalent. It sure is faster than a Raspberry Pi but RK3066 based
>> devices
>> have some drawbacks:
>> * No easy debugging access, I have yet to find the TXD pad on my RK3066.
>> * Fragmented development efforts. There are a gazillion git repositories
>> with all kinds of kernel sources, tools, etc.
>> * There are simply a lot of RK3066 based devices around and since
>> RockChip
>> refuses to release their kernel source code people hacking on the
>> RK3066/RK3188 depend on third-party manufacturers that do understand how
>> GPL works and release parts of the code. Still there are things missing,
>> I'm now searching for a way to access the NAND from within Linux but
>> there
>> is no source code anywhere for accessing the NAND on RK3066 based
>> devices.
>> Yeah, there are pre-compiled kernel modules but those don't work on my
>> install.
>>
>
> That would seem to be the biggest issue with these devices atm but one
> that
> should legally be resolved asap.
>
> Whether they 'get' FLOSS or not, either way they only stand to gain from
> doing as they legally, morally should.
>

What's the legal aspect here? Are they using gpl code in their drivers but
not releasing them?

>
>> * Closely related to the above bullet, yesterday I decided to flash the
>> kernel to the kernel partition only to realize later that now I can't
>> boot
>> into anything else but Linux. And I can't flash anything either because
>> I
>> can't boot in the bootloader. Apparently I can short two pads and have
>> the
>> device boot into recovery but that won't help me either because I've
>> flashed the recovery partition with, you guessed it right, a Linux
>> kernel.
>> * JACK doesn't run on my device it with an external USB interface. It
>> starts and then the kernel crashes.
>>
>
> That's what I expected, seeing how little success I've had on my
> Pandaboard
> with J2 git. Have you tried J1 too?
>
> Thanks J!
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