Re: [LAU] Focusrite Saffire Pro 40 - reliable?

On Sun, 29 Mar 2015, Ben Bell wrote:

> Well here's the promised follow-up mail. So far, the bottom line is that
> it's not as reliable as my dual Delta 1010 setup. There's a lot to like
> about the Focusrite but things are not entirely working properly and I haven't
> got to the bottom of why.

There is a lot to be said for something that shares internal bus and power
supply.

> Secondly, the ffado drivers may or may not be solid under the hood when
> they're up and running (assuming the above bug isn't their fault) but on the
> version I'm on (2.2.1) there's a lot of shakiness around the edges. ffado-mixer
> is very slow to use, taking a second or so to process each command sent to the
> ffado-dbus-server.

Pulse uses the dbus IF to control it's mixer and the levels seem to track
with fader movement very well I can notice no delay. This is not a dbus
issue I think.

> Various things like stopping jack also cause a whole bunch
> of processes just to lock up and I have to go around manually killing manually
> killing ffado-dbus-server, ffado-mixer, jackd and qjackctl.

My first thought is: why would you stop jack? I know here, it starts on
session login and only stops at logout (which around here means starts at
boot and stop at shutdown) Are you using jackd or jackdbus? If you are
using jackdbus, you may wish to try chmod -x jackd to keep it from being
auto started by some jack client. Jack_control will allow you to change
any of jack's parameters while jackdbus is running... though the only one
that makes sense is latency which can be changed on the fly anyway.

Anyway, if you are using qjackctl to turn jack off and on then I would
suggest using it's run script on start/stop to shut these other things
down before jack and start them again after. Again, I have set qjackctl
not to start or stop jackdbus so I can use the connection window for
connections. I can use it to stop jack, but no matter the AI, stopping
jack means restarting pretty much all the SW and reconnecting all the
ports. There are some APPs that will allow a reconnect to jack when it
comes back and will reconnect at least it's own ports to whatever they
were connected to before but that to me is not a good way to run things.

> If I switch the
> Focusrite off then, again, I have clean up work to do before things are usable
> again.

I am sure if you powered the d1010 down while the system was running you
would have similar problems or worse. Don't do that. I think if you want
your focusrite to be as stable as an internal card you need to treat it
the same... powered before the system starts and off after system. Using
an AoIP or USB IF should be the same.

Just my 2c

--
Len Ovens
www.ovenwerks.net
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