Re: [LAU] Galvanic isolation (was: Re: pianos with built in recorders?)

From: Len Ovens <len@email-addr-hidden>
Date: Thu Dec 24 2015 - 21:57:07 EET

On Thu, 24 Dec 2015, Bob van der Poel wrote:

> I believe that the MIDI spec
>
> http://www.midi.org/techspecs/electrispec.php
>
> says that you must have a opto-isolator. Devices without one are probably not
> compliment ... don't know about direct usb connections.

Yes that is the spec. However, that spec also gives a part number for that
iso-isolator. If builders are already using other opto-isolators which are
outside the spec but are concidered ok if "it works", then if "it works"
without any opto-isolator and by the way costs less, are you surprised
that there are a lot of MIDI interfaces that are not to spec, but still
work. How many buyers know the spec? How many of the buyers who know the
spec measure to be certain? How many of those people take it back and
demand a refund? (this MIDI interface is broken because there is an
electrical path from the input pin(s) to the USB pin(s)) I think that any
manufacture who got a lot of returns because they built something
incorrectly would change but I don't think that will happen here.

If you still have a PCI slot... find an old AI with a game port. It's
better than a USB MIDI adapter. Keyboard controller (no audio out) USB
direct is potentially better (higher speed), but may not be.

Ground loops with computer audio can be a real pain. So far I have not had
any problem with my PCI AI. USB has been a different story. I have been ok
with a mic and an amplifier that is double insulated power (two prongs on
the power plug). But as soon as I plug it into an amp that is grounded...
every mouse move is heard... oh, that was a network transfer... and
that was the sound of the screen saver. My PCI (D66) IF is plugged into a
mixer that is grounded, but no problem. I have tried external power for
the USB AI (no help) I need to try balanced cabling to see if that helps
too... My d66 also has balanced i/o but I am not using/needing it :)

Isolation boxes would work I am sure, but add up quickly costwise.

--
Len Ovens
www.ovenwerks.net
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