Re: [LAU] [Music] For fun 1 and 2

From: <jonetsu@email-addr-hidden>
Date: Sat Jul 02 2016 - 19:53:50 EEST

On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 09:22:53 -0700 (PDT)
Len Ovens <len@email-addr-hidden> wrote:

> > https://soundcloud.com/nominal6/jam19

First of all, many thanks for the comments - much appreciated.

> Generally I don't critique because I am not the greatest mixdown
> artist :) But, concidering you were recording a guitar chord riff, I
> would wonder at the guitar being almost lost in the background.

I'm certainly am not either, although I think I learn by doing and
reading articles. I have listened to so many badly recorded tracks to
extract the musical spirit out of time hence letting go of technical
considerations that I might very well in doing so have trained my ears
to be non-technical. You could give me a badly recorded tape and I'd
say it's great simply because I would listen to the music, bypassing
any technical aspects. ... So there's a lot to learn :)

In this the idea was, as corny as it may sound, to 'blend'. To propose
a mixture of sounds in which basically, but perhaps not always, not one
would take the stage. Your comment is helpful.

> Perhaps pulling the bass down after adding the XT-BC would have
> helped, though to be honest the acousticness of the bass seems to
> have been lost, I would have chosen (being a bass player) to
> highlight the acoustic parts of the sound. True that would have meant
> less bottom end and maybe you felt the track needed that bottom
> because there was really nothing else to carry that part (artistic
> desision).

You are right. And it could very well be a wrong path to try to cling
to this low sound in the mix inasmuch as the mastering stage could add
some of that bass once the acoustic properties have been secured in the
mix. I will try it out.
 
> Note: my monitors while not the greatest quality (the Tannoys
> upstairs are nicer) are pretty good on the bottom end (15in woofs)
> which may be part of why I can hear the bass really well.

Mine are worn M-Audio studiophile. Worn in the sense that the tweeters
cones are busted. So I do not use them for serious work. One day,
maybe this year, I plan to get Yamaha HS7. So I use Sony MDR-7506
headphones. Which makes me think I do have one Beritone that I could
have used for checking the (mono) mix for midrange and see which voice
comes out louder. I'll do in the revision of the mix.

> > https://soundcloud.com/nominal6/jam16

> Yes, the levels are much better here, probably because you have
> chosen sounds that already sound as you like rather than modifying
> them after.

Yes. There is indeed a problem with not taking the acoustic sounds
as they are. Which also means to pay more attention to miking (no
pickups used). For this I have an Audio Technica AT2050 and a M-Audio
Pulsar (first generation).

> Your compositions are always interesting to listen to. I have found
> that I do better mixing in Live situations... maybe because I can't
> listen to them afterwards :) than anything I mix at home... I listen
> a week later and am not happy. Still I should practice more maybe :)

There is one thing on my todo list, is to actually, seriously, try to
mix some offerings from Mike Senior's multitrack library. More than
200 multitrack projects for mixing purposes. People mixes them, upload
their mixes and comment on the web forum. Serious matters, and all
free. All styles are represented, from one stereo track to as much as 60
tracks, with additions just about every month.

http://cambridge-mt.com/ms-mtk.htm

> Thank you for sharing.

Thanks for the comments.

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