Re: [LAU] reducing xruns (System configuration)

From: David Kastrup <dak@email-addr-hidden>
Date: Fri Jul 20 2018 - 03:23:40 EEST

Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net> writes:

> On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 19:22:36 -0400, Paul Davis wrote:
>>On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 6:56 PM, David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> What kind of mail client is unable to recognize a mail belongs to a
>>> certain mailing list when the mailing list is in the Cc: field?
>>>
>>
>>​gmail? see enclosed image of the To: line it sets up when using the
>>default "Reply" to this mailing list:
>
> Since a lot of people often don't know how to e.g. unsubscribe, some
> MUAs provide a menu for mails from mailing lists, with intact mailing
> list headers, see attachment.

Well, if you value that, don't set the mailing list options to avoid the
duplicates.

Simple as that.

How do real people on real mailing lists, let's say a developer list, do
this?

Like, say, the following?

    From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
    Subject: Re: [PATCH] random: fix rdrand mix-in
    To: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
            Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
            Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>, tcharding <me@tobin.cc>,
            Rasmus Villemoes <linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk>,
            Eric Biggers <ebiggers@google.com>,
            Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
    Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 17:01:06 -0700

    On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 2:12 PM Theodore Y. Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu> wrote:
>
> I wasn't sure how quickly the HW entropy would replenish itself; I
> know that on first RDRAND platforms it would effectively never fail
> (as in if six of the eight cores were calling RDRAND in a tight loop
> _maybe_ you could exhaust the HW entropy).

    I suspect you can't hit it in practice on Intel systems, but maybe you
    can on others. And maybe future other architectures might be different
    yet.

    But rdrand has the potential of being pretty slow, and it's almost
    certainly not worth continuing if it stopped giving us data.

                      Linus

(actually, I had to look a bit to get a mail that was not crossposted to
several lists in order to have a fair example).

Seems like all those guys stacking up in the To: header are incapable of
heeding basic mailing list netiquette, right?

-- 
David Kastrup
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