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Subject: [Fwd: [Fwd: [linux-audio-dev] Fwd Windows vs Linux, VST vs Mucos etc]]
From: Michel Jullian (exbang_AT_wanadoo.fr)
Date: ti helmi  29 2000 - 12:50:40 EST


Forwarding Charlie Steinberg's opinion concerning an open-source
non-proprietary vst2 ;-)

attached mail follows:


>Forwarding this to vst-plugins, as I think it may interest many of us, even if
>the principal recipient is obviously Steinberg : open source non-proprietary
>VST2
>for Linux, Charlie ?
>
>
>--
>Greetings,
>Michel

to be honest we currently don't see how this could work, sorry.
charlie

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>Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 16:48:37 -0500
>From: Paul Barton-Davis <pbd_AT_Op.Net>
>
>>I agree with Michel that VST on Linux would instantly bring a myriad
>>of plugins, soft-synths etc to Linux,
>>but I have two arguments against it:
>>
>>- VST license is proprietary (we want an open standard without being slaves of
>> a single company ( M$ was enough)
>
>If Steinberg insisted on a proprietary license for a Linux VST
>implementation, then its somewhat dead in the water. I don't know
>anyone who really matters in the Linux audio development community who
>would be prepared to use it, and I know that I for one would be very
>vocal about encouraging others to ignore it.
>
>>- VST is not the best possible plugin-API as we figured out here on the list.
>> ( hardwired MIDI , not very flexible event handling etc, .. just ask David
>>Olofson)
>
>This is a separate issue. Truth be told, if Steinberg told me next
>week that they were shipping an open source version of VST2, then I
>think we could just more or less forget about MuCoS. Not because Mucos
>would not be better from a technical standpoint. Definitely
>not. (Besides, how could something real ever be as good as vaporware?
>:) But the work involved in developing a new plugin standard and
>promoting it would, to my mind, never be matched by the benefits if a
>working, widely used "standard" was available. I think that though VST
>could be improved, and though I think that we have sketched out many
>improvements right here on LAD, we are kidding ourselves if we think
>that its a better path to go down to ignore an open source VST
>implementation in favor of the "better" solution.
>
>However, Steinberg have given no indications that (1) a
>non-proprietary license is possible and (2) that an open source
>implementation might exist. Until both of these things are confirmed,
>I am much more interested in Mucos because of its technical
>superiority over VST.
>
>>Steinberg are nice people and I think they are considering the Linux platform
>>as soon it becomes a viable solution,
>
>It *is* a viable solution on a technical level. The sense in which it
>is not "viable" is mostly that Steinberg do not have VST available for
>it, Digidesign do not have TDM available for it, etc.
>
>--p

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