Subject: Re: [linux-audio-dev] SuperClonider
From: Michael J McGonagle (fndsnd_AT_rcnchicago.com)
Date: Sat Apr 20 2002 - 08:37:03 EEST
Paul Davis wrote:
>
> with all due respect to Eric S. and John L., as much as SAOL improves
> on Csound, comparing it to SuperCollider is like comparing ... well,
> its exactly like comparing an incomplete version of C to Smalltalk.
Well, I admit that I don't know SuperCollider... So... If you like
SuperCollider so much, why not buy a Mac? This is not intended to be a
flipant question, I am curious why you have choosen to use Linux over
Mac?
> they are completely different conceptions of what a language should
> look like, and we all know very well that the form of a language has a
> big influence of what we do with it.
Could you offer some comparisons here? What things are possible in
SuperCollider that are either not available or are more difficult in
SAOL?
> i am a huge fan of supercollider - it appears to me the best designed
> language for algorithmic synthesis that i've seen. i think its a shame
> that james is so attached to his mac environment, because if it was
> available for linux, we would have just about the only tool i'd ever
> need to use for synthesis.
Could you please explain why SuperCollider is so excellent? What
features does it have that other languages should have?
> for me, SAOL is still too connected to the Music N lineage, which
> while a source of many noble achievements, was constructed by people
> without any particular grounding in the design and implications of
> programming languages. i don't love smalltalk very much at all,
> whereas i love C and C++, but i'd much, much, much rather have a
> smalltalk-like or lisp-like language for synthesis and processing
> experiments than something that looks like SAOL.
Could you please expand on your thoughts here? What things are needed
that are missing in the Music N line? I am assuming from this statement
that the language should be a complete programming language. What things
require this? How "complete" does the language need to be?
Mike
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