RE: [linux-audio-dev] Re: image problem

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Subject: RE: [linux-audio-dev] Re: image problem
From: Ivica Bukvic (ico_AT_fuse.net)
Date: Wed Oct 23 2002 - 00:53:29 EEST


> This is a fair question. First, "many people" might promote OSS, but
that
> doesn't mean unconditional surrender. ;) I mean, I was really quite
> offended by Ivica's message where he proposed that JACK developers are
> arrogant if they don't implement x and y. OSS or not, that's not very
nice
> considering how much free time we have spend on this.

And what do you think how do I feel when I contribute to this community
with my apps (which certainly are nothing even close in scope or quality
to Ardour, but are my best and most honest shot at it), spend most of my
time promoting Linux, conceiving a Linux & Multimedia class at my
University and teaching it, convincing my mentor that the Linux is the
way to go by purchasing new Linux machines, and evangelizing
Linux/Alsa/Jack among my peers, and all this without any compensation
whatsoever? Do you think my time is any less valuable than yours?

Besides, I was, and still am the advocate of Alsa. But even Alsa
supports OSS apps (to some extent), so I have no clue as to why you are
placing me in the OSS camp. If you read my post carefully, you'd realize
that I am talking about good quality apps that will simply not be usable
with Jack framework which is a shame, and as such would limit user's
ability to unlock the full potential of Linux audio...

The arrogance I spoke of you managed to misinterpret rather well. What I
spoke of is the fact when addressing this issue to Jack developers, you
get cornered into a situation where you are "damned if you do present
the issue, and damned if you don't" while at the same time Jack
developers simply suggest the impossible: why don't you port all those
1000+ apps to Jack? So if I come out with a suggestion, then I get
flamed all over for it, but if I keep quiet, then I cannot use it for
what I need it for.

If that did not come of as described above, then I do apologize.

Every wish for contribution that came from my mouth was in a form of
suggestion/criticism/request for a feature, because that is the most
comprehensive and quickest way of presenting the case. After all,
stroking egos will not make Jack any better... Every one of those was
met with a strong opposition and defensive behavior. I want to
contribute, but if the project developers to whose project I want to
contribute to marginalize my suggestion for contribution, then what's
the point?

Ico


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