Subject: Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: linuxaudio.org
From: ian esten (deviant_AT_custard.org)
Date: Thu Jan 15 2004 - 00:09:30 EET
a couple of things...
first, the reason (or one of) i think you are seeing such strong
reaction is that this website has come as rather a suprise to a lot of
people on here. i think everyone involved in linux audio development (in
any way, be it writing, bugfixing or testing apps or libraries) has
become rather used to having a voice in the process, and being able to
appoint 'leaders' if needs be. linuxaudio.org is one persons effort to
set up a central focus for that, and until now it was done in secret.
that makes a lot of people feel cut out which is not a good thing. this
has the potential to be an important thing, so it should be some sort of
democratic process.
second, there has been a little anti corporation sentiment kicking
around in this thread. personally i think it would be fantastic to get
big audio companies giving input on how they think things should work.
that way the linux audio world could give them the things they need to
get their products working in linux. obviously they can't adopt the open
source model for their software, but having it work alongside open
source stuff would be a huge boost for linux audio. corporations aren't
evil, and open source isnt the only way!
ian
On Wed, 2004-01-14 at 11:01, Daniel James wrote:
> > It's probably a bit of a wake up call to some folks on this list
> > that this cosey LAD-cabal is about to be usurped, absorbed and
> > displaced by a cororate-cabal and you're aim is to encourage this
> > procedure.
>
> Are you an ironist of some kind, Mark?
>
> > There is some uneaze about whether the likes of
> > Steinberg and M$ are in any way welcome on the same planet, let
> > alone involved in any decisions about the future of ALSA/Jack/*
>
> Firstly, neither Steinberg or Microsoft have been invited to join
> linuxaudio.org, nor have they asked to. Secondly, I'm not at all
> clear how membership of a consortium designed to promote the use of
> libre software would allow these two companies to steer the ALSA
> project, or any other. Thirdly, did you fail to notice that ALSA
> development is now paid for by Novell?
>
> > My point is: don't take it for granted that everyone here will
> > smile upon your efforts.
>
> I certainly won't. I think I'll concentrate on talking to people
> actually making a positive contribution to Linux audio from now on.
>
> > The reason the long hard route has been
> > taken in the first place is to avoid being shafted by corporate
> > hidden agendas and unabashed profit motives...
>
> You presume I'm in favour of corporate shafting? You know nothing
> about me, then.
>
> > which you are now
> > openly promoting using a debatably iconic netmark
>
> If it's iconic, one of you should have bothered registering it before
> two weeks ago - you had years to do it.
>
> > and without any
> > obvious signs of merit other than doing what _you_ think is
> > appropriate.
>
> Actually, I've spoken to a lot of people in the community about this,
> who have nearly all been supportive.
>
> Cheers
>
> Daniel
-- ian esten <deviant_AT_custard.org>
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