Subject: Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: linuxaudio.org
From: Marek Peteraj (marpet_AT_naex.sk)
Date: Wed Jan 21 2004 - 20:32:53 EET
On Wed, 2004-01-21 at 11:10, Daniel James wrote:
> > > It's true that I did initiate the arrangement whereby the Linux
> > > audio community gets representation at a major UK audio industry
> > > trade show,
> >
> > Suddenly you're now speaking as the representative of the whole
> > Linux audio community.
>
> No - a consortium can only represent its members.
"Linux audio community gets representation..."
>
> > The only true
> > representatives of the Linux Audio community are the Linux Audio
> > Developers.
>
> By which you mean members of a mailing list, or the actual developers
> doing the work? This may come as a surprise to you, but many libre
> software developers admit that they need help to promote their
> software - either because they don't have the time, experience of
> working with the media or public speaking skills.
Then let's focus on software and its developers.
>
> > > The organisers have agreed
> > > to give us the stand at cost, which they didn't have to do.
> >
> > So how is that different from LinuxTag or ZKM?
>
> If you read up on the event you'll see it is specifically about audio
> and music technology, which LinuxTag is not. Running this kind of
> stand at a Linux event would be 'preaching to the converted'. As for
> ZKM, that is a developer event, not really an event for users who
> don't even know what Linux is yet.
>
> > The only thing we should promote right now are
> > the Linux Audio applications.
>
> er... that's what we are doing.
>
> > Companies have resources to promote
> > themselves.
>
> I don't think you appreciate the situation with regard to the small
> companies that are funding free software development, while trying to
> make a living for developers at the same time. They are not rich.
> Even combined, their resources are tiny compared to the proprietary
> software companies.
>
> > And it makes no sense to promote Linux Audio Users at
> > such event.
>
> What have you got against users? Is it because I'm a user rather than
> a developer?
>
> > The problem is - Frank, Joern, Matthias were doing a great job
> > organising events and helping the Linux Audio Developers to promote
> > their open source Linux Audio applications.
>
> Agreed - but only events in Germany as far as I know. There are other
> countries too.
http://www.metadecks.org/events/lca2004/
>
> > They never called
> > themselves the directors of LAD.
>
> Perhaps that's because a mailing list is not an organisation. If they
> had set up an organisation and called themselves directors of it, I
> don't think anyone would have complained.
>
> > I see ZKM as a very important event simply because it's growing
> > into a larger conference, an event solely aimed at Linux Audio, an
> > event that will be aimed at both Linux Audio Developers and Linux
> > Audio Users this year. A place where the developers, journalists
> > and music industry can meet each other.
>
> As long as they a) know the event exists and b) are sufficiently
> interested to travel to Germany for it.
http://www.metadecks.org/events/lca2004/
>
> > I think such an event is much more important than any stand.
>
> Yes - but we're aiming our effort at a very different audience.
Could you explain?
> > I urge you again to withhold the establishing of any consortium
>
> Already done.
Already done witholding?
>
> > Regarding the consortium list.
> > The old thread is gone. Was there anything you should hide?
>
> No. It was only a temporary list.
>
> > I
> > believe that another private mailing list with the old thread still
> > exists.
>
> You sound paranoid.
http://lists.linuxaudio.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/consortium-p
Marek
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