Subject: Re: [linux-audio-dev] (web-based) interactive sound art?
From: Pall Thayer (palli_AT_pallit.lhi.is)
Date: Wed May 05 2004 - 12:00:44 EEST
Don't get me wrong. I don't see this as a flame war. These are very
valid points that have been brought up and this sheds some light on the
state of free, non-proprietary media for the web today. I truly wish
there were viable non-proprietary ways of creating rich media that could
utilize the pre-installed plugins that come with most browsers, such as
flashplayer and javaVM. But sadly this is not the case so I feel forced
to take the proprietary route. As far as OGG is concerned, I do plan to
switch to it in about a year or so. The way things are going it looks
like it will be pretty wide-spread by that time.
Pall
Francois Dechelle wrote:
> Hi,
>
> To be clear, I didn't want to start a flame war about proprietary vs.
> free software. I completely understand your reasons for using Flash or
> Java and I agree with you that today there is no free equivalent of
> Flash or Java plug-in.
>
> About the OGG alternative, it requires installing a plug-in which is
> free software and very easy to install. May be a smooth transition path
> would be to propose both MP3 and OGG with a note explaining people why
> OGG is better and how they can easily install the OGG plugin.
>
> fd
>
> Le mer 05/05/2004 à 03:56, Pall Thayer a écrit :
>
>>Hi people,
>>
>>First of all, I wonder why no-one has thought to contact me to ask about
>>these points brought up about my work. Anyway, I'd be happy to explain a
>>couple of things like why I use Flash, Java and Mp3 even though they're
>>proprietary. I would be very happy to get away from proprietary technologies
>>completely but I also want people to be able to enjoy my work with minimum
>>effort. I am of course aware of SVG and OGG and do most of my work on Linux
>>(except Flash of course). However, although we all love non-proprietary
>>software and platforms, they are seldom pre-installed on 'regular' users
>>computers. If they drop in at a site that requires that they download and
>>install not one, but two or three plug-ins or programs, they're just going
>>to skip the site and go to the next one. I would. I could try to be really
>>modest and say, "I don't care what anyone else thinks or says, I'm just
>>doing this for myself!" But that just wouldn't be true. I'm doing this for
>>an audience and the bigger the better. I want people to experience and enjoy
>>my work and I know they won't if it involves a bunch of downloading and
>>installing. I have been moving towards Java instead of Flash specifically
>>because Flash doesn't run well on Linux and with Java I can do all my work
>>on Linux.
>>
>>On the issue of GPL-ing my stuff. I'm just not that organized. If anyone
>>wants to see my files, just contact me and ask. I have nothing against
>>sharing them and do whenever anyone requests it.
>>
>>best regards,
>>
>>Pall Thayer
>>artist/teacher
>>Fjolbrautaskolinn vid Armula
>>http://www.this.is/pallit
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>>http://130.208.220.190/panse
>>
>>
>
>
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