Re: [linux-audio-dev] Request to audio related LiveCD packagers

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Subject: Re: [linux-audio-dev] Request to audio related LiveCD packagers
From: Andrea Glorioso (andrea.glorioso_AT_agnula.org)
Date: Wed May 05 2004 - 10:57:03 EEST


[Takashi, is there a specific reason why you cut off the Cc: list? Up
to now nobody as objected to it, and I'd like the discussion to be as
widespread amongst the interested parties as possible]

>>>>> "Takashi" == Takashi Iwai <tiwai_AT_suse.de> writes:

> i might have minunderstood his arguments, but let me try to
> straighten the discussion.

> 1) the firmware loader itself is clean. the all source codes
> are provided under GPL.

Agreed.

> 2) the firmware data is, so far, provided also under GPL, too.
> (i.e. it is redistributable by any person.) and this looks like
> a problem. if the firmware data is regarded as a "program", the
> corresponding source codes must be provided. but if it's
> nothing but "data"? how can we prove for/against that?

I'd first ask to formally (well, as formally as possible) define
what's "program" and what's "data". Everytime I tried to do it, I
always ended up concluding there was no real difference, at least not
in any Von Neumann's architecture based machine.

> 4) because of the suspect of (2), AGNULA doesn't include
> alsa-firmware package in the live-cd.

Exactly.

> so, the discussion should have nothing to do with the fact "on
> which system the firmware is loaded".

I agree.

> it's the question of distribution. it it's distributed under a
> wrong license, either change the license or provide what's
> needed additionally.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean with this last sentence.

> in addition to the above, there is another thing to discuss --
> whether such gray binary stuffs are included in AGNULA. AGNULA
> people must decide it, if the alsa-firmware data is released
> under a different license.

Sorry, I'm not sure I understand this part neither.

bye,

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