Re: [linux-audio-dev] [OT] marketing hype

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Subject: Re: [linux-audio-dev] [OT] marketing hype
From: Marek Peteraj (marpet_AT_naex.sk)
Date: Thu Jun 10 2004 - 02:04:18 EEST


On Wed, 2004-06-09 at 22:37, Dan Hollis wrote:
> i think its possible to get your point across without being a dick.
>
> sadly, you didn't do it.

I always don't, you should already know that, i'm known for that ;)

>
> On Thu, 10 Jun 2004, Marek Peteraj wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 2004-06-09 at 13:17, Dave Griffiths wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2004-06-09 at 21:11, Marek Peteraj wrote:
> > > > What linux audio offers is
> > > > technology. No comfort at all. Right now it's all just academic
> > > > software.
> > >
> > > This, and the lack of marketing departments is exactly why I am here.
> > >
> > > I don't want to see linux apps turning into slickly hyped lifestyle
> > > products like the rest of the music software business. We should push
> > > the advantages we have,
> >
> > What advantages? Free as in beer?
> >
> > > rather than follow the path of steinberg etc...
> >
> > But you guys *are* following proprietary software in general. Ardour is
> > a DAW just like cubase is, while SSM resembles reaktor in its
> > philosophy. LADSPAs are plugins like VSTs are, etc etc etc. There's
> > nothing which is perfectly original.
> >
> > I've never seen such inapt community btw, which is totally ignorant in
> > organizing itself. See the gnome community which started to exist the
> > same year. They have more conferences per year, one of them being
> > huge(guadec) with sponsors, larger companies involved, and *most* of
> > *all* they're a centralised community.
> >
> > What we have is tons of links and no information. Although there are
> > some very good standards which could be successful even in another
> > domain(e.g. jack), nobody cares to promote them.
> >
> > Lots of LADders even think that this mailing list isn't really
> > important. Nobody cares that it actually represents a pretty central
> > meeting point for developers interested in linux audio, and a perfect
> > knowledgebase.
> >
> > We also have an organisation, which isn't really an organisation since
> > it's not a legal entity, and about 2/3rds of all don't seem to even
> > participate. And that organisation seems to have different goals than
> > promoting and protecting linux audio in *general*, *whether* pro or not,
> > i.e. the linux audio community.
> >
> > Centralising information and provoding easy access is a pretty good way
> > to promote linux audio so that it reaches more developers and users, you
> > don't need marketing hype for that. No matter if it concerns linux audio
> > in general or ladspa plugins.
> >
> > The gnome community already provides that, the kde community aswell.
> > Heck, there's even a linuxprinting.org community. Do i need to say more?
> >
> > >
> > > Personally speaking, as a free software developer I don't care if my
> > > programs are deemed as sucessful, they work for me, and handful of other
> > > people - this makes me happy :)
> >
> > I'd like to see what other developers of the most popular linux audio
> > projects think. Because if they share your opinion, i'd rather save some
> > bucks and buy myself a mac.
> > Linux audio is perfectly unusable for me. Currently.
> >
> > Marek
> >
>
>


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