Re: [linux-audio-dev] Audio/Midi system - RT prios..

From: Chris Cannam <chris.cannam@email-addr-hidden>
Date: Fri Dec 30 2005 - 20:15:09 EET

Florian Schmidt writes:
> I further assume that the alsa seq event system
> is used

This is true of Rosegarden,

> and midi events are not queued
> for future delivery but always delivered immediately.

but this isn't -- Rosegarden always queues events
from a non-RT thread and lets the ALSA sequencer
kernel layer deliver them. (Thru events are delivered
directly, with potential additional latency because of
the lower priority used for the MIDI thread.) In
principle this should mean that only the priority of
the receiving synth's MIDI thread is significant for
the timing of sequenced events. We also have a
mechanism to compensate for gradual drift between
the MIDI timing source (kernel timers or RTC) and
soundcard clock, when synchronising to audio, by
adjusting the sequencer skew factor. (This happens
to be similar to the mechanism for slaving to MTC,
which is handy.)

In my experience this is all a long way from
foolproof. The most common problems for users
seem to be:

 - ALSA sequencer uses kernel timers by default and
of course they only run at 100 or 250Hz in many
kernels.

 - ALSA sequencer can sync to RTC, but the
associated module (snd-rtctimer) appears to hang
some kernels solid when loaded or used. I don't have
much information about that, but I can probably find
out some more.

 - ALSA sequencer can sync to a soundcard clock,
but this induces jitter when used with JACK and has
caused confusion for users who find themselves
inadvertently sync'd to an unused soundcard (the
classic "first note plays, then nothing" symptom).

The biggest advantage of course is not having to run
an RT MIDI timing thread. My impression is that this
aspect of MusE (which does that, I think) causes
as many configuration problems for its users as using
ALSA sequencer queue timers does for Rosegarden's.

Any more thoughts on this?

Chris
Received on Fri Dec 30 20:15:09 2005

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