Re: [LAD] LV2 " isn't well thought out ?" LV2 in the Reaper sequencer

I apologize if hurted or offended anyone it was not my intention, after all
we share all
the same goal of better and free tools to make music.
Perhaps people got irritated by Justin's comments on LV2 which probably only
took
a quick look at the LV2 so as Dave R. pointed out (thanks) most of his
concerns are
unfounded.

At least the discussion is now taking the right direction and I hope the
outcome will
be positive.

BTW in case you did not notice the release of VST3 sparked a long discussion
on
kvraudio.com and over there smaller vst plugin developers are upset and are
now
talking to join forces and develop an open standard which can easily wrap
VST2.4
or AU and the idea is getting developers to write for that standard and
having
wrappers (I think compile time) that make a VST or AU plugin out of it.
here is the thread: (reached already a few hundred messages :) )
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=204080&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&sid=121637eee847f3945bfdd7fb66f75823

I guess Steinberg will try to push VST3 to gain a competitive advantage and
if the community does not react now Steinberg will probably discontinue VST
2.4
over time in order to encourage VST3 adoption (As apple discontinued VST in
order to
push AU after having bought out emagic)

Perhaps now the time is right for everyone joining forces and together try
to find a solution
that both enables backwards compatibility with VST, AU but at the same time
is
extensible.

thanks everyone,
Benno

2008/1/23, Dave Robillard <dave@email-addr-hidden>:
>
> On Wed, 2008-01-23 at 09:59 +0000, Steve Harris wrote:
> > On 23 Jan 2008, at 00:50, Christian Schoenebeck wrote:
> > >
> > > Calm down guys, Benno is just a bit frustrated about the apparently
> > > low
> > > interest of LV2 becoming a broad standard. The misplaced attributes
> > > here and
> > > there are just caused by this frustration, and hey, it's quite
> > > pointless to
> > > argue about this issue, because it's not our business anyway. :)
> > > I'm sure the Reaper guys will seek a dicussion theirselfes in case
> > > they're
> > > really interested in the LV2 issue.
> >
> > That's fair enough, but it's very early in the day, LV2 has only been
> > finalised for a few weeks, and it's not even widely adopted internally
> > by LAD people, so I wouldn't expect commercial software people to be
> > that interested yet.
> >
> > To my mind it's better for us to develop a large suite of tools and
> > plugins to demonstrate the viability and advantages before we go
> > courting other implementations.
>
> Definitely agreed. 10 minutes hacking is worth 10 hours arguing on web
> forums.
>
> There's no better PR than "look at what we can do". Good technology
> sells itself :)
>
> -DR- (who is currently implementing things in LV2 far beyond what VST or
> AU could hope to ever do)
>
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