Re: [LAD] students and copyright

From: Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@email-addr-hidden-dsl.net>
Date: Mon Aug 03 2009 - 08:28:14 EEST

jaromil wrote:
> re all,
>
> the GNU GPL agile copyright registration aimed at freedom helps us
> little fishes survive despite the "marauding giants" - institutions,
> corporations, etc. as in a student - university relationship can be.
>
> a common situation of attribution of authorship in Universities in a
> place like Italy, again: professors (we call them barons) often use
> the production of their students for their "side jobs" as corporate
> consultants. sometimes organising little "prizes" (like trips to
> Apple in Cupertino, for instance) meanwhile sending them all the
> projects made by students for which the copyright and production
> agreement is very blurred: the name (and cigar smoking) of the
> professor on top with the company sponsoring the prizes and then a
> confusing list of "students" participating.
>
> now you know a good reason why i've emigrated :)
>
> ciao

"Welcome to Impro-Visor (Improvisation Advisor) Version 4, from Bob
Keller at Harvey Mudd College.
 
[snip]
 
Bob Keller, Impro-Visor Project Director" (README.txt)

I don't like it, but it's not important if I or anybody else does or
doesn't like it. The students are mature and if they are fine with it,
it's their choice. And the good thing, there's no confusing list of
students participating ;).

Jazz musicians don't learn to improvise by a bot, but by this discussion
I learned a lot about the GPL. It would be fine if there would be an
easy to understand Wiki about the GPL, then nobody needs to controvert
the GPL on any developer mailing list.

The German Wiki seems to be such an easy to understand clarification,
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_General_Public_License, but anyway, it
differs to a lot of expert posts by this discussion.

"Ziel ist es, die Freiheit eines Programmes auch in der
Weiterentwicklung von anderen sicherzustellen." on English this sentence
means that it's particularly wanted that someone like Raymond is allowed
to fork a modified project that original is from somebody else.

"The original Impro-Visor project is now hosted on sourceForge. This is
using little changes as a red herring to try to take control of that
project, apparently." (posted by keller91711 4 days ago)

There's no red herring needed to use the libre that is guaranteed by the
GPL.

If I do understand the German Wiki right, Bob Keller still is violating
the GPL. This isn't an attack by me, it's confusing me, on English there
e.g. is: "you need to include any such compile-time configuration files,
too" (http://gpl-violations.org/faq/sourcecode-faq.html)

Anyway, it's hard to understand what needs to be done and what not. As
somebody who doesn't understand a lot of issues I was asked not to
comment anything, by people who might have knowledge about the GPL, but
on the other hand some easy to understand clarifications disagree with
this knowledge.

This is confusing and explains that it's hard to comply to the GPL and
in addition to individual laws of some countries and different points of
view by experts.

Is http://gpl-violations.org right or wrong with it's interpretation of
the GPL?

Ralf

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